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To: Cronos
You are correct. my beliefs are orthodox. I can't make that last leap of logic to her being the mother of God, though.

Of course she deserves respect, but as a woman who followed God to the best of her ability and as God granted her Grace. But I don't need a meadiatrix between me and God, I already have Christ. Is He not sufficient?

20 posted on 07/21/2009 11:31:37 AM PDT by chesley ("Hate" -- You wouldn't understand; it's a leftist thing)
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To: chesley
"I already have Christ. Is He not sufficient?"

If not we are all doomed!

1Ti 2:5 "For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus"
Those that seek another will not join us at the wedding feast.
47 posted on 07/21/2009 8:55:51 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: chesley
You are correct. my beliefs are orthodox. I can't make that last leap of logic to her being the mother of God, though.

There is no leap of logic --
1. you agree that she was the mother of Jesus Christ, correct?

2. You do agree that Jesus Christ is God, wholly God and wholly Man -- two natures complete and intertwined in the one person. Right?

Ergo, she was the mother of God - Jesus Christ, not the mother of God the Father, the other part of the Godhead.

Note -- that does NOT mean that she was the creator of God, that does NOT mean that she was anything but inferior to God, that does NOT mean that she was not a creature (created by God).

Finally, "But I don't need a meadiatrix between me and God, I already have Christ. Is He not sufficient? " --> The Church doesn't say that you have to pray to Mary -- we don't pray to her. We just respect her for his position as the vessel for Christ to come into the world. Christ IS sufficient, we just respect Mary as a mother figure. Remember -- The Church does not say go out and pray to Mary, don't pray to Christ. We ask Mary to pray FOR us...and we also pray to Christ --> I don't mind other people praying for me, so why not have Mary doing that too?
49 posted on 07/22/2009 5:16:22 AM PDT by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delendae sunt + Jindal 2K12)
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