Posted on 06/18/2009 4:02:05 PM PDT by bronxville
“You don’t sound like a loving person to me.”
Judge not FRiend.
“My post was for MrRogers and maybe should have been a personal post.”
But it wasn’t, was it?
“That doesn’t give you the right to ridicule.”
Ridiculous ideas deserve ridicule, no?
The whole point is: what does scripture say? Not what previous protestant reformers say. I’m a female Messianic Jew. Stray? I don’t think so. I think others have strayed and lost sight of the Savior of the world ....
“I gave Bible verses..”
So have I.
Don’t be offended.
We joke here all the time.
In a debate, a bit of humor can break the tension.
Thanks, I haven’t been back to the thread since it first began, but that was what I wanted to post then. I try to be a little bit more discrimanate by asking the original poster if they want those links now.
But sometimes, I just toss all my saved links on a thread for no reason at all.
People need to know the truth.
Wrong Bible.
*smile*
>>But sometimes, I just toss all my saved links on a thread for no reason at all.<<
HA! There is a reason for everything!
And you think I’m not a Christian? Is that what your statement insinuates?
I’m kind of a ‘words in context mean what they say’ person. That is what the Holy Spirit’s work is to lead us into all truth and I really don’t think God would ever contradict Himself.
But how do you know? How do you know the Holy Spirit is leading you? I sure didn’t. When I took a very Islamic POV to a few verses in Romans. How do you know?
The Devil comes as an angel of light. One can never be sure that a Bible Study class and much prayer will give one the right interpenetration of the verses. You see it the way you want to see it. With no guide, except other people studying it.
I trust the people who put the Words on paper.
Is there not a difference between doing a 'favor' for someone and 'obeying' them?
As I understand your direction on this, you are saying that if I pray to Mary and ask her to ask Jesus to answer my prayer, He must do so because He has to obey His mother. Is this what you mean?
If this IS what you are saying then are you not giving Mary the same all-knowing, omniscient power as Almighty God? By this I mean, if a million people are all praying to Mary at the same time for their own needs, she can hear them all and intercede for them all separately?
Sorry...I don't see it.
So do I, the Holy Spirit. And like I said, God will not contradict Himself.
I’m referencing the Douay-Rheims, which you quoted. The NT was published in 1582. That would be 527 years ago, plus or minus a few months...
“As I understand your direction on this, you are saying that if I pray to Mary and ask her to ask Jesus to answer my prayer, He must do so because He has to obey His mother. Is this what you mean?”
Nope. If I ask Mother Mary for an Evil thing, why would Our Lord have any interest in helping even assuming His Mother asked?
You wouldn't expect Mary to actually ask Jesus for something evil would you?
And yet, you didn't answer the rest of my question. Are you ascribing Mary the same powers as Almighty God?
“Are you ascribing Mary the same powers as Almighty God?”
Of course not, why would you assume such a thing?
>>So do I, the Holy Spirit. And like I said, God will not contradict Himself.<<
But actually you have no guarantee that the thoughts in your head are put there by the Holy Spirit.
I got the wrong ones.
Actually, this is what you said.
“I’m not the one quoting a 500 year old translation that, by your own admission, is from the Latin. Your use of a translation made from Latin to promote Roman Catholic belief 500 years ago makes your posts suspect, not mine.”
The Latin translation is MUCH older than your translation.
And from the Aramaic, Greek and Hebrew texts. If you’re not using that, your posts are suspect.
Hahn was a protestant who was out to tear down catholicism and he ended up converting to catholic. He is an esteemed professor of theology at Steubenville Univ. in Ohio, and has several books, namely “Rome Sweet Rome” about his journey.
And btw, the Holy Spirit “inspired” men to write the words.
Unless you think He is a shapeshifter or something.
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