Posted on 04/23/2009 7:27:24 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
For if we ever begin to suppress our search to understand nature, to quench our own intellectual excitement in a misguided effort to present a united front where it does not and should not exist, then we are truly lost.
–Stephen Jay Gould
[Y]ou’ve heard me complain about scientific organizations that sell evolution by insisting that it’s perfectly consistent with religion. Evolution, they say, threatens many peoples’ religious views — not just the literalism of Genesis, but also the morality that supposedly emanates from scripture. Professional societies like the National Academy of Sciences — the most elite organization of American scientists — have concluded that to make evolution palatable to Americans, you must show that it is not only consistent with religion, but also no threat to it. (And so much the better if, as theologians like John Haught assert, evolution actually deepens our faith.) Given that many members of such organizations are atheists, their stance of accommodationism appears to be a pragmatic one.
Here I argue that the accommodationist position of the National Academy of Sciences, and especially that of the National Center for Science Education, is a self-defeating tactic, compromising the very science they aspire to defend. By seeking union with religious people, and emphasizing that there is no genuine conflict between faith and science, they are making accommodationism not just a tactical position, but a philosophical one. By ignoring the significant dissent in the scientific community about whether religion and science can be reconciled, they imply a unanimity that does not exist. Finally, by consorting with scientists and philosophers who incorporate supernaturalism into their view of evolution, they erode the naturalism that underpins modern evolutionary theory.
Let’s begin with a typical accommodationist statement—this one from the National Academy of Sciences...
(Excerpt) Read more at whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com ...
“Evolution is compatible with what I and everybody else observes, living things replicating by natural means. I have yet to see a living thing created out of nothing.”
Then I must assume that you don’t believe in Genesis chapter 1 because thats what God did. Anyway, evolutionary biology doesn’t yet have a consensus on the chemical origin of the first cell and it most certainly doesn’t state that life came from nothing.
Not really. I’m actually cheering on the creationists. They just keep disappointing me...
Opps I misread your post. Sorry, it must be the beer.
Thanks for the ping!
Looks like a query script.
Please don’t speak as to my tech ability again as yours appears to be as bad as you accuse me of.
A simple google search would have told you what it was - http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc163329.aspx
PLINQ is a query execution engine that accepts any LINQ-to-Objects or LINQ-to-XML query and automatically utilizes multiple processors or cores for execution when they are available. The change in programming model is tiny, meaning you don’t need to be a concurrency guru to use it. In fact, threads and locks won’t even come up unless you really want to dive under the hood to understand how it all works. PLINQ is a key component of Parallel FX, the next generation of concurrency support in the Microsoft® .NET Framework.
==You are generalizing my friend, not all scientists share those views.
Perhaps, Ira...but let’s face it, the Christian compromisers are way outnumbered, and they virtually never put up a fight (except against biblical creationists which suits the Evo-atheists just fine), and if the Evo-atheists get their way, it’s only a matter of time before the Christian compromisers are completely rubbed out of science:
http://kspark.kaist.ac.kr/jesus/intelligence%20&%20religion.htm
I guess that your ignorance is understandable, but you really miss the essence of it. - Its not about rights, but discernment, as the Holy spirit may or may not grant it.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
I apologize - I didn’t realize this was in the religion forum. I normally have a greasemonkey script running in Firefox that warns me away from the religious section - but I am on a different computer.
I will cease posting as that is my policy and please delete any of my posts that even come close to violating the rules.
[[Surely you can provide those instructions.]]
Sure- it’s called the bible- Read it some time
Here is some additional evidence to further falsify your hypothesis
50 Nobel Laureates and Other Great Scientists Who Believe in God
http://www.adherents.com/people/100_Nobel.html
Didn’t God create science?
==Here is some additional evidence to further falsify your hypothesis...50 Nobel Laureates and Other Great Scientists Who Believe in God
Hmmm...your list includes overtly evil men like Jimmy Carter; Marxist Liberation Theologian, Desmond Tutu; Marxist-Leninist terrorist, Nelson Mandela; Darwin’s bulldog and the man who coined the word agnostic, Thomas H. Huxley; the man who despised Judaism and did everything he could to destroy Christianity, Voltaire...and the list goes on and on. Did you know these people were on the list you put forward on behalf of evolution, Ira?
[[Hmmm...your list includes overtly evil men like Jimmy Carter; Marxist Liberation Theologian, Desmond Tutu; Marxist-Leninist terrorist, Nelson Mandela; Darwin’s bulldog and the man who coined the word agnostic, Thomas H. Huxley; the man who despised Judaism and did everything he could to destroy Christianity, Voltaire...and the list goes on and on. Did you know these people were on the list you put forward on behalf of evolution, Ira?]]
Woopsie- lol “Christian men of God”? Obviously some aren’t able to spiritually discern who is a Christian and who obviously isn’t
“The Gospels recount how Jesus, having lived a perfect and blameless life, accepted a death of horrible suffering on the cross on our behalf, as an atonement for the sins we have committed. Accepting Christ as my savior means believing all these things and entering into a relationship with God through him, so that my past and future sins no longer alienate me from my Creator.
Putting our total faith in these concepts is what is meant by being ‘born again.’ It’s when there is an intimate melding of my life with that of Jesus: I become a brother with him, and God is our mutual parent. This frees me from the strings that previously limited my relationship with my Creator.” ~ Jimmy Carter
“I am writing to you as one human person to another human person, gloriously created in the image of the selfsame God, redeemed by the selfsame Son of God who for all our sakes died on the Cross and rose triumphant from the dead and reigns in glory now at the right hand of the Father; sanctified by the selfsame Holy Spirit who works inwardly in all of us to change our hearts of stone into hearts of flesh. I am, therefore, writing to you, Sir, as one Christian to another, for through our common baptism we have been made members of and are united in the Body of our dear Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ. This Jesus Christ, whatever we may have done, has broken down all that separates us irrelevantly – such as race, sex, culture, status, etc. In this Jesus Christ we are forever bound together as one redeemed humanity, black and white together.” ~ Desmond Tutu
“We bow our heads in worship on this day and give thanks to the Almighty for the bounty He has bestowed upon us over the past year. We raise our voices in holy gladness to celebrate the victory of the risen Christ over the terrible forces of death.
Easter is a joyful festival! It is a celebration because it is indeed a festival of hope!
Easter marks the renewal of life! The triumph of the light of truth over the darkness of falsehood!
Easter is a festival of human solidarity, because it celebrates the fulfilment of the Good News!
The Good News borne by our risen Messiah who chose not one race, who chose not one country, who chose not one language, who chose not one tribe, who chose all of humankind!
Each Easter marks the rebirth of our faith. It marks the victory of our risen Saviour over the torture of the cross and the grave.
Our Messiah, who came to us in the form of a mortal man, but who by his suffering and crucifixion attained immortality. ~ Nelson Mandela
“The more I know intimately of the lives of other men (to say nothing of my own), the more obvious it is to me that the wicked does not flourish nor is the righteous punished. But for this to be clear we must bear in mind what almost all forget, that the rewards of life are contingent upon obedience to the whole law – physical as well as moral – and that moral obedience will not atone for physical sin, or vice versa.
The ledger of the Almighty is strictly kept, and every one of us has the balance of his operations paid over to him at the end of every minute of his existence.” ~ Thomas Huxley
“Tonight I was in a meditative mood. I was absorbed in the contemplation of nature; I admired the immensity, the movements, the harmony of those infinite globes.
I admired still more the Intelligence which directs these vast forces. I said to myself: ‘One must be blind not to be dazzled by this spectacle; one must be stupid not to recognize the Author of it; one must be mad not to worship Him’.” ~ Voltaire
I never stated that I supported their politics…………………
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