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Washington Churches Eye A Prize — The Obamas [Tells Us The State of Our Churches?]
NYTimes ^ | April 11, 2009

Posted on 04/11/2009 10:32:17 AM PDT by Steelfish

Washington churches eye a prize — the Obamas Family's search for a spiritual home sets off competition among ministers By Rachel L. Swarns

The New York Times

WASHINGTON - The invitations have come in neatly typed letters, whispered entreaties and please-join-us blogs. They have come from predominantly white churches and predominantly black churches, venerable churches with distinguished lineages and smaller, plucky churches with little more than spirit and gumption.

The prize? The most sought after churchgoers in Washington: President Obama and his family.

Mr. Obama’s search for a church home has touched off a frenzied competition among ministers of various colors and creeds who are wooing the first family.

The president, in turn, has sent emissaries to observe worship services, interview congregants and scrutinize pastors. (His aides even searched YouTube to vet one local minister.)

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Current Events; Other Christian
KEYWORDS: bho44; dc; easter; obamaandgod; obamachurch; revwright
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1 posted on 04/11/2009 10:32:17 AM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

Wait...he’s sending his minions to church for him?


2 posted on 04/11/2009 10:36:07 AM PDT by Cailleach
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To: Steelfish

Maybe they are really trying to convert him from Islam.


3 posted on 04/11/2009 10:37:04 AM PDT by FreeSouthernAmerican (All we ask is to be let alone----Jefferson Davis)
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To: Steelfish
The president, in turn, has sent emissaries to observe worship services, interview congregants and scrutinize pastors.

Must be a real challenge to find a pastor that hates America and whites as much as Jeremiah Wright.

4 posted on 04/11/2009 10:37:47 AM PDT by A message (3 years 9 months 8 days)
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To: Steelfish

For all you'll ever need or want to know about
Wright's "Black Liberation Theology",
see my FR Home page:
http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/#Section%204
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The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine
Monday , May 5, 2008
FoxNews/Hannity's America
[special Friday night edition--original airdate May 2, 2008]

(some key excerpts)

["(Jose) Diaz-Balart is the son of Rafael Diaz-Balart y Guitierrez (a former Cuban politician). He has three bothers, Rafael Diaz-Balart (a banker), Mario Diaz-Balart (a US Congressman) and Lincoln Diaz-Balart (also a US Congressman). His aunt, Mirta Diaz-Balart, was Fidel Castro's first wife."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jose_Diaz-Balart]

JOSE DIAZ-BALART, TELEMUNDO NETWORK: "Liberation theology in Nicaragua in the mid-1980's was a pro-Sandinista, pro-Marxist, anti-U.S., anti-Catholic Church movement. That's it. No ifs, ands, or buts. His church apparently supported, in the mid-'80s in Nicaragua, groups that supported the Sandinista dictatorships and that were opposed to the Contras whose reason for being was calling for elections. That's all I know. I was there.

I saw the churches in Nicaragua that he spoke of, and the churches were churches that talked about the need for violent revolution and I remember clearly one of the major churches in Managua where the Jesus Christ on the altar was not Jesus Christ, he was a Sandinista soldier, and the priests talked about the corruption of the West, talked about the need for revolution everywhere, and talked about 'the evil empire' which was the United States of America."

REV. BOB SCHENCK, NATIONAL CLERGY COUNCIL: "it's based in Marxism. At the core of his [Wright's] theology is really an anti-Christian understanding of God, and as part of a long history of individuals who actually advocate using violence in overthrowing those they perceive to be oppressing them, even acts of murder have been defended by followers of liberation theology. That's very, very dangerous."

SCHENCK: "I was actually the only person escorted to Dr. Wright. He asked to see me, and I simply welcomed him to Washington, and then I said Dr. Wright, I want to bring you a warning: your embrace of Marxist liberation theology. It is contrary to the Gospel, and you need, sir, to abandon it. And at that he dropped the handshake and made it clear that he was not in the mood to dialogue on that point."

Source: The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html
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"Their founding document [the Weather Underground's] called for the establishment of a "white fighting force" to be allied with the "Black Liberation Movement" and other "anti-colonial" movements[1] to achieve "the destruction of US imperialism and the achievement of a classless world: world communism."..."-Berger, Dan (2006). Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity. AK Press, 95.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_Underground#cite_ref-Berger_0-0

Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity (Paperback) by Dan Berger
http://www.amazon.com/Outlaws-America-Underground-Politics-Solidarity/dp/1904859410
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From the New York Times, August 24, 2003

"they [the Weather Underground] employed revolutionary jargon, advocated armed struggle and black liberation and began bombing buildings, taking responsibility for at least 20 attacks. Estimates of their number ranged at times from several dozen to several hundred."

Article: Quieter Lives for 60's Militants, but Intensity of Beliefs Hasn't Faded
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F04E4DE1539F937A1575BC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=2

5 posted on 04/11/2009 10:39:17 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Steelfish
Obama's Church: Gospel of Hate
Kathy Shaidle, FrontPageMag.com
Monday, April 07, 2008

In March of 2007, FOX News host Sean Hannity had engaged Obama’s pastor in a heated interview about his Church’s teachings. For many viewers, the ensuing shouting match was their first exposure to "Black Liberation Theology"...

Like the pro-communist Liberation Theology that swept Central America in the 1980s and was repeatedly condemned by Pope John Paul II, Black Liberation Theology combines warmed-over 1960s vintage Marxism with carefully distorted biblical passages. However, in contrast to traditional Marxism, it emphasizes race rather than class. The Christian notion of "salvation" in the afterlife is superseded by "liberation" on earth, courtesy of the establishment of a socialist utopia.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=30CD9E14-B0C9-4F8C-A0A6-A896F0F44F02
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Catholics for Marx [Liberation Theology]
By Fr. Robert Sirico
FrontPageMagazine.com | Thursday, June 03, 2004

In the days when the Superpowers were locked in a Cold War, Latin America seethed with revolution, and millions lived behind an iron curtain, a group of theologians concocted a novel idea within the history of Christianity. They proposed to combine the teachings of Jesus with the teachings of Marx as a way of justifying violent revolution to overthrow the economics of capitalism.

The Gospels were re-rendered not as doctrine impacting on the human soul but rather as windows into the historical dialectic of class struggle. These "liberation theologians" saw every biblical criticism of the rich as a mandate to expropriate the expropriating owners of capital, and every expression of compassion for the poor as a call for an uprising by the proletarian class of peasants and workers.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=460782B7-35CC-4C9E-A2C5-93832067C7CD
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From "45 Communist Goals":
#27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion.
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

6 posted on 04/11/2009 10:41:45 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Steelfish

He was elected to the US Senate and should have been in DC since January, 2005. Has he not been attending church since then?


7 posted on 04/11/2009 10:42:37 AM PDT by Bernard (If you always tell the truth, you never have to remember exactly what you said.)
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To: Steelfish

Certainly there are a few Masques in DC??

Pray for America, Our Troops and obama’s Salvation


8 posted on 04/11/2009 10:44:07 AM PDT by bray (Join the Rebel Republican Movement!)
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To: Steelfish

Not much of a prize, in my estimation, of course — if they can convert him to Catholicism and have him reverse the abortion nonsense he has dealt out — well -——

I’m dreaming. LOL! (he’d still be a dimocrat!!! LOL)


9 posted on 04/11/2009 10:45:48 AM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Steelfish

How is it that the hard-working junior Senator, devout Christian and part-time DC resident did not already find a church to his liking in the past four years?


10 posted on 04/11/2009 10:46:36 AM PDT by fullchroma (I want my country back.)
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To: Steelfish
“The invitations have come in neatly typed letters, whispered entreaties and please-join-us blogs.”

If my Pastor and or parishioners wrote invites to Obama they would not be my pastor or parishioners anymore.

The invite alone reeks of a social gathering disguised as “Christianity” based on prestige instead of Biblically/Aposlitstic based on truth.

Plus the traffic/logistics/security etc... If I was Pres., a private service at the White House would be better for everyone.

11 posted on 04/11/2009 10:49:44 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: rollo tomasi

If my Pastor and or parishioners wrote invites to Obama they would not be my pastor or parishioners anymore.

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There isn’t anything wrong per se with inviting Obama or anyone else to church. As the pastor could hardly go and knock on the WH door, a letter is certainly appropriate.

But of course the idea would need to be to share the gospel with him and his family, and not pander to get a high profile individual to join for the prestige of the church.


12 posted on 04/11/2009 11:00:07 AM PDT by I_Like_Spam
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To: I_Like_Spam
They guy is already a professed Christian who happens to be a reprobate so there is a problem when inviting one that carries principalities at war with Truth into your worship service.

Besides, he is trolling for earthly conformity rather than Spiritual Truth.

13 posted on 04/11/2009 11:09:05 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: I_Like_Spam

They= The guy....


14 posted on 04/11/2009 11:09:55 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Cailleach

This you know what can’t do a damn thing on his own.


15 posted on 04/11/2009 11:16:39 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Steelfish

I’m sure they are eager to preach God’s law to this supporter of baby killing, right?


16 posted on 04/11/2009 11:19:03 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Steelfish

Amazing, that after all this time, and all the information that’s been provided, so few here know much at all about Obama’s “religion” (Black Liberation Theology). No wonder we got our butts kicked in the election. Because if people here don’t get it, the situation is clearly a lot worse on the outside.


17 posted on 04/11/2009 11:34:34 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Steelfish

Where did Bush go to church in DC?


18 posted on 04/11/2009 11:57:24 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: rollo tomasi

Maybe the Good Godly Churches need to send him a letter asking him to never attend their Church unless he repents. Nobody would like their Churches roof to fall in on them. < /sarcasm> at least if I was a member of any church I would like to know ahead of time that he was attending so I could be sure to be near the exit doors in case the roof caves in.


19 posted on 04/11/2009 1:14:32 PM PDT by ReformedBeckite
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To: Steelfish
St. James warned us:


My dear friends, don't let public opinion influence how you live out our glorious, Christ-originated faith. If a man enters your church wearing an expensive suit, and a street person wearing rags comes in right after him, and you say to the man in the suit, "Sit here, sir; this is the best seat in the house!" and either ignore the street person or say, "Better sit here in the back row," haven't you segregated God's children and proved that you are judges who can't be trusted?


20 posted on 04/11/2009 1:16:11 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm SO glad I no longer belong to the party of Dependence on Government!)
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