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1 posted on 03/24/2009 2:14:12 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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2 posted on 03/24/2009 2:15:46 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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Have a blessed day.


3 posted on 03/24/2009 2:18:02 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks.)
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“A thousand ages in thy sight are like an evening gone”

From, O God Our Help in Ages Past


4 posted on 03/24/2009 2:23:21 PM PDT by dblshot
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I like this view better:

http://www.geraldschroeder.com/age.html


5 posted on 03/24/2009 2:23:33 PM PDT by DManA
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In a nutshell, the Hebrew word for day is Yom and whenever the word Yom is proceeded by a number it was always used to refer to as ONE DAY.

So anyone who attempts to say it meant an age are wrong. It is the same language used when God told Moses that they will keep the Sabbath Holy. For God created everything in six days, then took the 7th day off and He commanded the Israelites to do the same. He did not tell them to take an age of time but ONE DAY, the SEVENTH DAY OF THE WEEK.
6 posted on 03/24/2009 2:23:57 PM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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God was not bound by normal processes during the creation events. In fact, creation was a miracle of the first magnitude. God spoke and the universe came into existence. God spoke and mature plants and animals were formed. God spoke and mankind was created. This argument is not worthy of dispute.

Sure it is, since no one was there at the time God created anything, except for man, and he didn't write it all down at the time.

Genesis was written so that man may understand what God did, in a way that they could understand it. I don't believe it is meant to be a literal history of God's creation, though some may interpret it that way.

Interpreting it as God creating life, and that life growing over a period of time isn't incompatible with one's belief that God, indeed, DID create the universe, and everything in it, as written in Genesis.

7 posted on 03/24/2009 2:25:46 PM PDT by SuziQ
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day means day

Now let’s move onto more complex questions like “What does ‘is’ mean?”


8 posted on 03/24/2009 2:28:11 PM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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This just looks like one mans opinion. Being accomplished and educated in one field does not mean one is necessarily accomplished and educated in other unrelated fields. I see nothing in Dr. Vardiman’s biography to imply that he has any special knowledge in ancient Hebrew or theology. Neither does he support or substantiate his assertions.
12 posted on 03/24/2009 2:42:07 PM PDT by Natural Law
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Man, what were those evoatheists thinking, trying to exclude this stuff from science classrooms.

Down with fossils in biology classes! Up with theological disputes over the meaning of ancient Hebrew words!


20 posted on 03/24/2009 3:48:11 PM PDT by oldmanreedy
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BTTT


27 posted on 03/24/2009 4:29:41 PM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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Dr. Davis Young, former geology professor at Calvin College, recognized this dilemma and abandoned the “day-age” theory. Here is part of his explanation as to why he discarded it:

The biblical text, for example, has vegetation appearing on the third day and animals on the fifth day. Geology, however, had long realized that invertebrate animals were swarming in the seas long before vegetation gained a foothold on the land ... . Worse yet, the text states that on the fourth day God made the heavenly bodies after the earth was already in existence. Here is a blatant confrontation with science. Astronomy insists that the sun is older than the earth.8

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/wow/whats-wrong-with-progressive-creation

For more articles on 6 days:

Days of Creation:

Get Answers: Genesis—How long were the days mentioned in the Biblical creation account?

Framework Hypothesis:

What is the Framework Hypothesis? Is it Biblical?
A Critique of the Framework Interpretation of the Creation Account (Part 1 of 2)
A Critique of the Framework Interpretation of the Creation Account (Part 2 of 2)
A critique of the literary framework view of the days of Creation (Technical, PDF, by Andrew Kulikovsky)

Gap Theory:

How is the Gap Theory refuted by the Bible?
What About the Gap & Ruin-Reconstruction Theories? (from The New Answers Book)
Can evolution’s long ages be squeezed into Genesis?
Gap Theory—An Idea with Holes?
The Gap Theory—Part A
The Gap Theory—Part B
What does “Replenish the Earth” mean?
Genesis unbound (critique of John Sailhamer’s sophistic version of the gap theory)
Replenishing the Earth (ICR Back to Genesis article)

Progressive Creationism:

Hugh Ross and “progressive creationism”: why is it wrong to add billions of years to the Bible?
Why Shouldn’t Christians Accept Millions of Years? (from The New Answers Book)
What’s wrong with progressive creation? (from War of the Worldviews)
What’s wrong with Progressive Creationism?
The Dubious Apologetics of Hugh Ross (Semi-Technical)
Cosmic breakthrough
Hugh Ross Exposé (Refutation of his article on the Christian Leadership Ministry website)

Gerald Schroeder and his new variation on the “Day-Age” theory:

Part 1
Part 2

Did God rest on the seventh day for a literal 24 hour day, or for millions of years?:

Is the Seventh Day an Eternal Rest?

Theistic Evolution:

Why is evolution so dangerous for Christians to believe?
10 Dangers of Theistic Evolution
Feedback: Young Is the New Old
“A child may see the folly of it”
Biblical problems for theistic evolution
The big picture
Bryan on theistic evolution
God and evolution: do they mix?
Is it possible to be a Christian and an Evolutionist?
Theistic evolution: future shock
Theistic Evolution and the Future of Humans
Theistic evolution: what difference does it make?
What Should a Christian Think about Evolution?

Did God use evolution to create the world?:

Couldn’t God Have Used Evolution? (from The New Answers Book)
The Atheists Know . . . Why Christianity has to Fight Evolution
Did the Creator Use Evolution?
Evolution incompatible with Christianity
The god of an old Earth
Jacques Monod vs Theistic Evolution
Is evolution “anti-religion”?
The horse and the tractor—Why God and evolution don’t mix
Theistic Evolution and the Creation-Evolution Controversy (ICR Impact article)

How has theistic evolution harmed the faith of scientists who professed Christianity?:

From (theistic) evolution to creation (article about Prof. John Rendle-Short)

The Genesis Flood:

Global or Local
Get Answers: Flood—Does the Bible really claim that Noah’s Flood was global?

Links to above topics: http://www.answersingenesis.org/get-answers/topic/creation-compromises


36 posted on 03/24/2009 7:59:19 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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