Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Bigotry against Mormons apparently acceptable in Utah LDS (OPEN)
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | March 20, 2009

Posted on 03/21/2009 8:22:38 AM PDT by greyfoxx39

Here is the response of a Utahn commenting on a Salt Lake Tribune online blog concerning HBO's attempt in its series "Big Love" to increase its revenues by publicly insulting the religious sensitivity of a minority religion: "Anything that gets the LDS "church's magical Mormon underwear in a twist is all right with me!!"

I write for a regional newspaper in Iowa. During the last election campaign, I suggested that Mitt Romney lost the Iowa caucus to Mike Huckabee primarily due to anti-Mormon bigotry. A reader argued that my opinion had no credence because I was a lay leader in the LDS Church.

The writer was either suggesting that I knew exactly what I was talking about and was therefore credible, or that I shouldn't be believed because I was a Mormon, which implies that the writer was a bigot.

-SNIP-

It is obvious to an outsider that Utah, or at least Salt Lake City, has within itself a deeply held culture of bigotry. A bigotry so ingrained in the cultural norm that the readers posting comments to the newspaper's blogs, apparently believing they are freethinking and ironic, are saying things online that would never be allowed into print if written about other groups.

(Excerpt) Read more at sltrib.com ...


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: lds; mormon
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 321-340341-360361-380 ... 441-451 next last
To: AuntB
This thread is posted in the Religion Forum.

If you do not wish to see RF posts, do NOT use the "everything" option on the browse. Instead, browse by "News/Activism." When you log back in, the browse will reset to "everything" - so be sure to set it back to "News/Activism."

341 posted on 03/29/2009 1:00:05 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 336 | View Replies]

To: Old Mountain man
I like facts and haven’t seen any produced lately, merely legends and fairy tales.

Then why do you read this -


342 posted on 03/29/2009 1:29:06 PM PDT by Godzilla (If the first step in an argument is wrong everything that follows is wrong. ~C.S. Lewis, The Problem)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 325 | View Replies]

To: Godzilla

Because I believe it is true and correct.


343 posted on 03/29/2009 1:53:19 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Blessed be the Peacemaker.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 342 | View Replies]

To: Elsie

Well, then, I guess you have implicated me as a true Christian.


344 posted on 03/29/2009 1:55:02 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Blessed be the Peacemaker.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 331 | View Replies]

To: Old Mountain man
Because I believe it is true and correct.

Ok, where was Zarahemla (occupied for hundreds of years) located?

345 posted on 03/29/2009 2:03:56 PM PDT by Godzilla (If the first step in an argument is wrong everything that follows is wrong. ~C.S. Lewis, The Problem)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 343 | View Replies]

To: Godzilla

Doesn’t matter. Since you are one of those that demands archeological evidence, prove Moses existed, outside of scripture.


346 posted on 03/29/2009 2:19:33 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Blessed be the Peacemaker.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 345 | View Replies]

To: Elsie

Pumkinist = Presbyterian


347 posted on 03/29/2009 2:21:03 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Blessed be the Peacemaker.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 333 | View Replies]

To: Elsie
I’m not easy! Being green!

It is tough being GREEN

They live under bridges in the hills of Scandinavia.

348 posted on 03/29/2009 2:41:40 PM PDT by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah, aka Maynard Dixon Country)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 334 | View Replies]

To: Old Mountain man
Doesn’t matter. Since you are one of those that demands archeological evidence, prove Moses existed, outside of scripture.

Moses was not a city, Zarahemla allegedly was occupied for hundreds of years.

349 posted on 03/29/2009 2:45:41 PM PDT by Godzilla (If the first step in an argument is wrong everything that follows is wrong. ~C.S. Lewis, The Problem)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 346 | View Replies]

To: Godzilla

Typical protester response: I can’t prove mine but you have to prove yours.

My response is: No, I don’t and you can’t.


350 posted on 03/29/2009 2:56:22 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Blessed be the Peacemaker.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 349 | View Replies]

To: Old Mountain man
Typical protester response: I can’t prove mine but you have to prove yours. My response is: No, I don’t and you can’t.

Classic cop-out and obfuscation. You made the claim the bom was true - yet you cannot supply one single piece of physical evidence of the existence of the Nephites or Lamanites. The Smithsonian Inst. acknowledges the Bible as primary historical document of the area and era. The difference is that its writing is inspired by the Holy Spirit, which other ancient writings are not. But if you want to judge it as historical source material apply the same standards of provenance as you would to any other ancient document. (the Smithsonian considers the bom account to be a myth).

AFA archaeological evidence for moses apart from the bible start with the 13th Dynasty (Pharaohs and Kings by David Rohl ).

351 posted on 03/29/2009 3:23:38 PM PDT by Godzilla (If the first step in an argument is wrong everything that follows is wrong. ~C.S. Lewis, The Problem)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 350 | View Replies]

To: Godzilla
Ah, if there were only such proof about the Egyptians...


352 posted on 03/29/2009 3:32:28 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Stupidity has an expiration date 1-20-2013 *(Thanks Nana))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 351 | View Replies]

To: ejonesie22
ƃuıɥɔʇɐʍ puɐ ƃuılıǝɔ ǝɥʇ uo ƃuıpıɥ ɹǝʞɹɐɯǝɔɐld ʎʇılıqısıʌuı ɟo ʞɐolɔ ɐɾuıu
...

353 posted on 03/29/2009 3:42:57 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I, El Rushbo -- and I say this happily -- have hijacked Obama's honeymoon.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 352 | View Replies]

To: ejonesie22

Thousands of years older than the bom era, and yet there is boo-coo physical evidence.


354 posted on 03/29/2009 3:44:21 PM PDT by Godzilla (If the first step in an argument is wrong everything that follows is wrong. ~C.S. Lewis, The Problem)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 352 | View Replies]

To: Godzilla
Amazing ain't it...

Guess the Egyptians were better builders...

LOL...

355 posted on 03/29/2009 3:57:09 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Stupidity has an expiration date 1-20-2013 *(Thanks Nana))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 354 | View Replies]

To: Godzilla; Old Mountain man

Pharaohs and Kings by David Rohl


Excellent book. Accessible to “non-archs” and well sourced.


356 posted on 03/29/2009 5:11:30 PM PDT by reaganaut (ex-mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 351 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut

I appreciate your endorsement.


357 posted on 03/29/2009 5:19:38 PM PDT by Godzilla (If the first step in an argument is wrong everything that follows is wrong. ~C.S. Lewis, The Problem)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 356 | View Replies]

To: Godzilla

You are welcome. The book is one of my husband’s favorites on Bib Arch/Egyptology


358 posted on 03/29/2009 5:39:40 PM PDT by reaganaut (ex-mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 357 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut
Last I checked, SLC proper was 50% (maybe less) active LDS.

Yep

Any religion that dominates has the potential to do harm to a differing minority. History is replete with these examples. In fact, Mormons themselves suffered as they trod westward looking for Zion.

359 posted on 03/29/2009 5:51:46 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began,)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: AuntB
How are we so blessed that your GOD gave you the duty to do that?
 
Glad you asked...
 



NIV Acts 6:3-5
 3.  Brothers, choose seven men from among you who are known to be full of the Spirit and wisdom. We will turn this responsibility over to them
 4.  and will give our attention to prayer and the ministry of the word."
 5.  This proposal pleased the whole group. They chose Stephen, a man full of faith and of the Holy Spirit; also Philip, Procorus, Nicanor, Timon, Parmenas, and Nicolas from Antioch, a convert to Judaism.
 

NIV Acts 11:19-26
 19.  Now those who had been scattered by the persecution in connection with Stephen traveled as far as Phoenicia, Cyprus and Antioch, telling the message only to Jews.
 20.  Some of them, however, men from Cyprus and Cyrene, went to Antioch and began to speak to Greeks also, telling them the good news about the Lord Jesus.
 21.  The Lord's hand was with them, and
a great number of people believed and turned to the Lord.
 22.  News of this reached the ears of the church at Jerusalem, and they sent Barnabas to Antioch.
 23.  When he arrived and saw the evidence of the grace of God, he was glad and encouraged them all to remain true to the Lord with all their hearts.
 24.  He was a good man, full of the Holy Spirit and faith, and
a great number of people were brought to the Lord.
 25.  Then Barnabas went to Tarsus to look for Saul,
 26.  and when he found him, he brought him to Antioch. So for a whole year Barnabas and Saul met with the church and taught great numbers of people. The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch.
 

NIV Acts 13:12
   When the proconsul saw what had happened, he believed, for he was amazed at the teaching about the Lord.
 

NIV Acts 17:16-19
 16.  While Paul was waiting for them in Athens, he was greatly distressed to see that the city was full of idols.
 17.  So he reasoned in the synagogue with the Jews and the God-fearing Greeks, as well as in the marketplace day by day with those who happened to be there.
 18.  A group of Epicurean and Stoic philosophers began to dispute with him. Some of them asked, "What is this babbler trying to say?" Others remarked, "He seems to be advocating foreign gods." They said this because Paul was preaching the good news about Jesus and the resurrection.
 19.  Then they took him and brought him to a meeting of the Areopagus, where they said to him, "May we know what this new teaching is that you are presenting?"
 

NIV Acts 18:11
   So Paul stayed for a year and a half, teaching them the word of God.
 

NIV Romans 6:17
   But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you wholeheartedly obeyed the form of teaching to which you were entrusted.
 

NIV Romans 12:6-7
 6.  We have different gifts, according to the grace given us. If a man's gift is prophesying, let him use it in proportion to his  faith.
 7.  If it is serving, let him serve; if it is teaching, let him teach;
 
 

 

Titus 2:1
  You must teach what is in accord with sound doctrine.
 
 
Romans 6:17
   But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you wholeheartedly obeyed the form of teaching to which you were entrusted.
 

 Romans 15:4
   For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us, so that through endurance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.
 

 Romans 16:17
   I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.
 
 
1 Corinthians 4:17
   For this reason I am sending to you Timothy, my son whom I love, who is faithful in the Lord. He will remind you of my way of life in Christ Jesus, which agrees with what I teach everywhere in every church.
 

1 Corinthians 11:1-2
 1.  Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.
 2.  I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the teachings,  just as I passed them on to you.
 
 

2 Corinthians 11:12
  And I will keep on doing what I am doing in order to cut the ground from under those who want an opportunity to be considered equal with us in the things they boast about. 
 
 
Ephesians 4:14
   Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming.
 

2 Thessalonians 2:15
   So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the teachings  we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter.
 
 
2 Thessalonians 3:6
   In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers, to keep away from every brother who is idle and does not live according to the teaching  you received from us.
 
 
1 Timothy 1:3-4
 3.  As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain men not to teach false doctrines any longer
 4.  nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. These promote controversies rather than God's work--which is by faith.
 

 1 Timothy 2:7
   And for this purpose I was appointed a herald and an apostle--I am telling the truth, I am not lying--and a teacher of the true faith to the Gentiles.
 

 1 Timothy 4:6
   If you point these things out to the brothers, you will be a good minister of Christ Jesus, brought up in the truths of the faith and of the good teaching that you have followed.
 

 1 Timothy 4:11-13
 11.  Command and teach these things.
 12.  Don't let anyone look down on you because you are young, but set an example for the believers in speech, in life, in love, in faith and in purity.
 13.  Until I come, devote yourself to the public reading of Scripture, to preaching and to teaching.
 
 
 2 Timothy 1:13
  What you heard from me, keep as the pattern of sound teaching, with faith and love in Christ Jesus.
 
 
2 Timothy 2:2
  And the things you have heard me say in the presence of many witnesses entrust to reliable men who will also be qualified to teach others.
 

2 Timothy 3:10-11
 10.  You, however, know all about my teaching, my way of life, my purpose, faith, patience, love, endurance,
 11.  persecutions, sufferings--what kinds of things happened to me in Antioch, Iconium and Lystra, the persecutions I endured. Yet the Lord rescued me from all of them.
 
 
Hebrews 13:8-9
 8.  Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.
 9.  Do not be carried away by all kinds of strange teachings. It is good for our hearts to be strengthened by grace, not by ceremonial foods, which are of no value to those who eat them.
 
 
2 John 1:10
   If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him.
 
 
Jude 1:3
  Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
 


Titus 2:1
  You must  teach what is in accord with sound doctrine.


360 posted on 03/29/2009 6:14:51 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 336 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 321-340341-360361-380 ... 441-451 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson