[delacoert]

IMO, the Dean of Students' sweet-as-honey tone-of-voice delivery and style in direct contrast to his hatchet-man task gives the procedings a Twilight Zone quality.

[Godzilla]

[svcw]

Ok, so the young man finished all course requirements in good standing, then made the calendar. How then is it justified to not give him his diploma, or does BYU track you your whole life?

[Hot Tabasco]

Well, the “Men on a Mission Calendar” link produces a blank page. So, who is Chad Hardy and why should I care? Is the Calendar homosexual oriented?

[Reaganesque]

Every student who attends BYU must agree, in writing, to abide by the BYU honor code. This is a legal, binding contract. If you don't sign it, you can't attend. But, as most of us know, there are those who feel (particularly on the Left) that laws, rules and regulations apply to them. They're merely optional suggestions to be followed when they don't get in the way of an agenda.

Here is the relevant section:

Live A Chaste And Virtuous Life

Live a Chaste and Virtuous Life
A chaste and virtuous life encompasses many principles, including respect and self control as well as reserving sexual intimacy for marriage.

Inappropriate gender-based behavior
Respect for each individual as a child of God is fundamental to the atmosphere desired at BYU. Inappropriate gender-based behavior is contrary to the teachings of the LDS Church and the university's Honor Code. The Church teaches that observance of high standards of conduct in personal relationships is necessary to individual salvation. A breach of the university Unlawful Sexual Harassment and Inappropriate Gender-Based Behavior Policy is an Honor Code violation. The following are examples of inappropriate gender-based behavior or sexual harassment.

• Repeated stereotypical gender-based remarks
• Sexually oriented joking, flirting, or comments
• Unwelcome touching or any touching of a sexual nature
• Verbal or physical abuse
• Graphic, sexually-oriented comments about an individual's body
• Derogatory or demeaning comments concerning gender
• Offensive or crude language
• Display of objects or pictures which depict nudity or are otherwise sexual in nature
• Persistent and unwanted attempts to change a casual or friendly relationship into a romantic or more intimate one

Pornography and indecent material
Involvement with pornographic, erotic, obscene, indecent, or other offensive materials, expressions, or conduct which, in the sole discretion and judgment of the university, is inconsistent with the BYU Honor Code or with the principles of BYU's sponsor, the LDS Church, is a serious offense which may result in university sanctions including, in appropriate cases, termination from university employment, immediate suspension or dismissal from the university as well as prosecution pursuant to the law.

Computer pornography
Students are expected to avoid involvement with pornography. They must also understand that use of the BYU owned and operated computing network to obtain or distribute pornographic material constitutes an inappropriate use of the computer network. See the BYU Computer Network Patron Policy which describes expectations and potential actions in regard to this matter.

Sexual and similar misconduct
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and BYU affirm that sexual relationships outside the covenant of marriage are inappropriate. Examples include but are not limited to the following:

• Extra-marital relations
• Promiscuity or predatory behavior
• Aberrant behavior
• Solicitation of sex
• Homosexual conduct
• Cross-dressing

Any level of sexual or similar misconduct at BYU is significant and may lead to a separation from the university.

Homosexual behavior or advocacy
Brigham Young University will respond to homosexual behavior rather than to feelings or attraction and welcomes as full members of the university community all whose behavior meets university standards.  Members of the university community can remain in good Honor Code standing if they conduct their lives in a manner consistent with gospel principles and the Honor Code.

One's stated same-gender attraction is not an Honor Code issue.  However, the Honor Code requires all members of the university community to manifest a strict commitment to the law of chastity.  Homosexual behavior and/or advocacy of homosexual behavior are inappropriate and violate the Honor Code.  Homosexual behavior includes not only sexual relations between members of the same sex, but all forms of physical intimacy that give expression to homosexual feelings.  Advocacy includes seeking to influence others to engage in homosexual behavior or promoting homosexual relations as being morally acceptable.

Violations of the Honor Code may result in actions up to and including separation from the University.

_______________________________________________

Just as illegal immigrants should not be rewarded for sneaking into this country, those who knowingly violate their commitments, both legal and moral, in an attempt to ridicule and impugn their former beliefs should not be rewarded for doing so either. Not to mention the fact that BYU is a private institution and is therefore well within its rights not to grant this kid a degree.

If you don't like BYU's beliefs, don't sign the code and go somewhere else. It really is simple enough for even Libs (and opportunistic critics of the church) to understand.

[Zakeet]

I was under the impression this was also a key part of the BYU Honor Code: Lying for the Lord

[fproy2222]

I do not understand,

conservatives complain when the state run universities hold students to no standerds.

conservatives are complaining because Mormons are doing what they, the conservatives, want the state schools to do.

[fproy2222]

If you believe that it is alright not to live up to your contracts, I will give your name to some folks who promised to pay me back for a loan and never did.

They need a new mark to steal from.

[lady lawyer]

I’ve listened to the tapes. This is a little weasel attempting to embarrass the church in order to promote the gay agenda. He set up this meeting purely to have something to put on youtube. He knew he wasn’t going to participate in good faith, and he didn’t.

The guy was excommunicated while still taking classes from BYU. He had left campus, and got involved in whatever “lifestyle” issues got him excommunicated. He set up this meeting in order to have something to tape, then refused to answer any questions about the period of time when he was enrolled in BYU taking classes online.

He is trying to make a technical distinction between taking classes online and taking classes on campus. His position is that, because he left campus and took classes online, he no longer had to abide by the honor code.

He is wrong. BYU is a church institution. Students agree in writing to maintain their standing in the church, and to live its standards. If they are not Mormon, they still have to live the moral standards, and obtain an ecclesiastical endorsement from their own church leaders. BYU is the cheapest private university in the country, because the students — including online students — are heavily subsidized by the tithing of faithful church members.

If this little weasel wanted to go off and do whatever it is he was doing — and given his statements about the “sacredness” of gay marriage and the homoerotic nature of his calendars — it’s pretty easy to guess what that is, IMO, he should have taken his credits from BYU, and enrolled somewhere else to complete his degree.

Instead, he is using his 15 minutes of fame to try to transform himself into another of Ann Coulter’s liberal victims.

[PfluegerFishin]

he had been excommunicated from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints

sweet...lucky him

[Rameumptom]

>>>IMO, the Dean of Students' sweet-as-honey tone-of-voice delivery and style in direct contrast to his hatchet-man task gives the procedings a Twilight Zone quality.

IMO, the twilight zone quality of this thread is the fact that FR is being actively used as a platform to push Hardy's anti-prop 8 gay agenda. Take it to the Daily Kos.