Posted on 03/06/2009 5:22:10 PM PST by delacoert
Then quit implying that WE have said so.
The MORMONism movement founder is a DOCUMENTED false prophet.
Just because it isn’t in the Bible doesn’t mean it didn’t exist. Lots of sacred writings were left out of the Bible. The people who assembled the various Bibles looked at the texts that had survived, and selected among them.
Look up “Elephantine Papyri” in Wikipedia. There are citations to numerous non-Mormon sources. An exiled Israelite community built a temple on Elephantine Island in Egypt in about the 6th century BC.
There are also remains of what is now believed to be a temple a few days’ journey south of Jerusalem. I’ve forgotten the name.
There may be others of which I am unaware.
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...So with their anti-Mormon seminar lists being outdated faster than they can keep up...
I don't know if you have noticed, but there seems to be a substantial amount of "anti" stuff on the web, and alot of that "anti" stuff comes from ex-Mormons who have done a substantial amount of research.
Since you seem so impressed with seminars, have you ever heard of ex-Mormon Ken Clark?
Ken worked full time for the LDS Church Education System (CES) for 27 years. He also served as a bishop; a calling he enjoyed as much as full time instructor and Coordinator for the Church Education System. He loved (and still loves) the students and the ward members.
His oh-so-out-of-date seminar is available at YouTube and the information is documented on a webpage.
I'll start a webpage about that so everyone can judge for themselves how outdated the "anti" seminars are.
Here's a little except that I thought was quite informative.
Indeed many early witting still do exists. But none point to a single thing from the BOM, and how can something so vital, so obvious, so important, so grand in scale, so connected to all of human history “disappear” from the record so cleanly.
It would be the mother of all conspiracies. And even in that there are always a few witnesses left.
You don’t put every detail in every time you recount something that happened to you, either. Different accounts of the same event can contain different details.
Few people are as fanatically anti-Mormon as those who leave the church, then spend the rest of their lives trying to justify that choice by tearing down the church.
Isn't that the way it works...
No, it wouldn’t be a conspiracy. Record keeping in those early days was a cumbersome thing. The records that were left were spotty. The people who assembled the various Bibles were well-meaning people doing the best with what they had.
If you look at the work of Margaret Barker — not a Mormon — she writes of evidence that struggles between different sects of Judaism resulted in actual destruction of texts in Old Testament times. The victors wrote the history.
As my "ancestor" would say:
"Antiquities theft is a crime against Man Kind"
We are not talking about the disappearance of a few cultist who wondered into the mountains. We are talking about NO record of entire process, practices, liturgical acts, doctrine etc. not to mention the complete and total alack of any mention of at least two very large (for their time) societies that supposedly interacted with a host of others on at least two if not three continents across the globe. And we not only find a total lack of this information in accepted, canonized scripture, but in works that were not included and known of today as well as the historical records and holy works of the surrounding Jews, Muslims and the like.
And this makes sense how? God is a prankster? The Illuminati had everyone killed?
Even though this premise show a lack of understanding I have one for you where are the prophets between Malachi and Matthew?
Exactly.
My apologies for the moderator mix up, perhaps I was just predestined to ping the wrong one.
So I'll ask the religion mod, given Hardy's public statements about his support for homosexual causes a la Prop. 8 why is FR allowed to be used as a platform to promote his agenda?
Ohio Christian has a similar moral honor code. http://www.ohiochristian.edu/download/Community_Handbook_2007.pdf
Seeing as how on this forum the Religion Moderators have the God-like ability to zot us lesser FReepers at will, I'll abide your decision.
Just goes to show the pattern that not all of the Word of God is being recorded!
than out the blue John the Baptist shows up but his history is wanting....
Um, yeah...
ok...
(History of The Baptist “lacking” eye roll)
Not because it is impeccable.
But because it is non existent...
We know that the temple was central to Israelite life. But they didn’t leave a detailed description of the ceremonies.
We know that Christ gave priesthood authority to his apostles, and that priesthood existed prior to Christ. But no details.
The Bible mentions baptism for the dead, with no explanations.
May want to clear that with a Rabbi next time.
As for the rest, the details are there, the authority was handed from Christ when he said “go ye unto all the world..” as well as sent forth Paul and the others. There is and has been nothing secret nor exclusive about that.
Exactly how much more detail do you need.
History of The Baptist lacking eye roll)
I said nothing about the “Baptist” I said there little is known about John the Baptist accept for a little introductry in the New Testament.
Now that peroid in between Malachi and Matthew there is I am sure a record of the Lord doings in reference of John the Baptist I am sure there was also or a patriarchal blessing of JB role.
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