Chad Hardy’s BYU Honor Code Review

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[delacoert]

In a letter dated September 29, 2008, Chad Hardy, producer of the infamous Men on a Mission Calendars and website, received a letter from Brigham Young University informing him that his name had been removed from the August 15, 2008 graduation roll. The letter stated that he would not be awarded his BA degree in Communication Studies because he had been excommunicated from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints on July 13, 2008, a month before graduation.

All of his required coursework had already been completed prior to the church discipline. He was not required to abide by the schools strict Honor Code because he finished his coursework online from his home in Las Vegas, NM. The only recourse given to him to get his diploma was to come back to full fellowship with the LDS Church.

Brigham Young University failed to follow their own policies and procedures in disciplining Hardy and revoking his degree. Two weeks later, Hardy was denied and exception from BYU policy and will not be awarded his degree.

This series of videos is the actual recording from the official University Review with BYU Dean of Students, Vernon Heperi.

• Chad Hardy’s BYU Honor Code Review Part 1 of 5
• Chad Hardy’s BYU Honor Code Review Part 2 of 5
• Chad Hardy’s BYU Honor Code Review Part 3 of 5
• Chad Hardy’s BYU Honor Code Review Part 4 of 5
• Chad Hardy’s BYU Honor Code Review Part 5 of 5

[lady lawyer]

Joseph Smith made very few changes, and those are only footnotes in the King James version, which we use.

There is no question that a lot of sacred writings are missing from the Bible. The Bible was assembled by men hundreds of years after Christ died.

There’s also no question that a lot of changes have been made in the earliest sacred writings which did make it into the Bible. Ehrman identified 30,000 changes in the New Testament, alone.

God does things on His own timetable. There were sealed portions of the record that Joseph Smith wasn’t permitted to translated. God will reveal those in His own time.

[svcw]

I would agree.

[greyfoxx39]

There were sealed portions of the record that Joseph Smith wasn’t permitted to translated. God will reveal those in His own time.

AH, yes, the fall-back "records haven't been unsealed" excuse.

P. T. Barnum is laughing his head off.

[Elsie]

Why would demons go to all the trouble of founding a church full of conservative people who try to keep the commandments?

 

Shows you'd best not be the on the defense team trying to uphold NT treachings!

 

 

 

 

Ever hear of 'Divide and Conquer'?

Does the word JUDEIZERS mean anything to you?

How about CIRCUMSION group?

How about...

 

 

"Know that a man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ.

So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ

and not by observing the law,

because by observing the law no one will be justified."

 

Galatians 2:16

[Elsie]

If you want demonic, look at the protestant churches, including the Presbyterian church, IIRC, who are embracing homosexual preachers and other perversions.

I 100% agree with you here.

[Elsie]

Aren’t you even a little embarrassed by it?

 

 

Ahem...

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First Nephi

 

God told Lehi to look at the  ball and read the words written upon it. And when he read the words "he did fear and tremble exceedingly." 16:26

The pointers on the ball work according to the faith of its user. 16:28

And the words written on the ball change according to the faith of its user. 16:29

So Nephi found his way to the top of the mountain by following the instructions that were written on the ball. 16:30

 

 

 

"It's better to know nothing than to know what ain't so."
--Josh Billings

[Elsie]

If He did indeed speak through prophets in biblical times — and I believe He did — why would he stop forever?

Why did HE give CLEAR instructions to detect a FALSE prophet?

Joseph Smith fits the description.

[Elsie]

Could you please provide a link or source?

Good luck.

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At the start of every trial, the defense lawyer will state to the jury that certain things have been ALLEDGED against his cliant, and that he will SHOW to the jury that these allegations are FALSE by using the EVIDENCE.

If the dude comes up with NO evidence, well - I'd hate to be his client!

[Rameumptom]

>>>IMO, the Dean of Students' sweet-as-honey tone-of-voice delivery and style in direct contrast to his hatchet-man task gives the procedings a Twilight Zone quality.

IMO, the twilight zone quality of this thread is the fact that FR is being actively used as a platform to push Hardy's anti-prop 8 gay agenda. Take it to the Daily Kos.

[ejonesie22]

The Greeks trace back to the very early days of Christianity, and their texts as a close to the source as any. The Greek fathers never mention temple garments, God's of other planets and a whole host of LDS additions.

Yes, there have been many translations, and there are scriptural books that “did not make the cut” . Follow your logic once again. Who is to say that those men who made such “decissions” were not indeed guided by the spirit?

Indeed what makes more sense, following a line of rational and exact actions over 6000 plus years or throwing in never before heard of ideas and concepts that are alien to all those who have followed the lord for those thousands of years?

Could the record really be that hidden from all of man? Where are the “proto” Mormons, the ones who knew of the Priesthood concept as you see it, the ones who knew of Kolob and the Nephites and Laminates? You mean to tell me that is just 2000 years we lost that until Joe stuck his head in his hat? You talk of "silly', that is remarkable!

You quote Ehrman, a agnostic, who has made good points, but is he more interested in finding fault or finding faith. Is he like so many others so mired in the muck of the details that they can't see the beauty of the meaning?

[ejonesie22]

How in the name of heck are you getting that?

That is truly silly if anything is. Have you even truly read ANYTHING posted?

[Elsie]

The Bible does not say it directly.

Nothing new under the sun...

 

Genesis 3:1

  Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God really say, `You must not eat from any tree in the garden'?" 

 

Ohhh such a wise question!

 

 4.  "You will not surely die," the serpent said to the woman.
 5.  "For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."

 

 

His tactics haven't changed a bit!

 

1. Introduce DOUBT...

2. 'Explain' what GOD said...

 

 

 

 

 

[lady lawyer]

My point is that most of what you say with complete assurance is a matter of interpretation, not text.

[Elsie]

Nowhere in the Bible does it say that He would do away with prophets, your interpretation of the words, “It is finished,” notwithstanding.

Huh?

Do you think we know NOTHING of THESE verses?

 

 

KJV 1 Corinthians 12:28-31
 28.  And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
 29.  Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?
 30.  Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?
 31.  But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.

 

KJV 1 Corinthians 14:29
   Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.

 

KJV Ephesians 4:11
   And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

 

KJV 1 Corinthians 14:32-33
 32.  And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
 33.  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

 

KJV 1 Corinthians 14:37-38
 37.  If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
 38.  But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.

 

And Joseph Smith, ETAL, were warned about here:

 

 

KJV 2 Peter 2:1
  But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

 

KJV 1 John 4:1
  Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

 

 

[lady lawyer]

Sure. I know those verses. They are describing what would exist in His church. We have them. Do you?

And, yes, there can be false prophets. But that very verse suggests that there will also be true prophets. It certainly doesn’t say there will be no prophets.

[Elsie]

That’s because Elsie has been fobbing off the demon theory for quite some time now. I just find it amusing.

Laugh away...

2 Corinthians 11:12-15
 12.  And I will keep on doing what I am doing in order to cut the ground from under those who want an opportunity to be considered equal with us in the things they boast about.
 13.  For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ.
 14.  And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.  
 15.  It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.

[greyfoxx39]

This is the Religion Forum. Why didn't you ping the Religion Moderator?

It doesn't appear that you visit the Religion Forum often...are you aware the Religion Moderator has stated more than once that he makes an attempt to read ALL the posts, and probably succeeds quite well. Since there are 230 posts on this thread, I can assure you he has been here before.

[Elsie]

IMO, the twilight zone quality of this thread is the fact that FR is being actively used as a platform to push Hardy's anti-prop 8 gay agenda.

I'll bet that Jim doesn't KNOW this!

Let's warn him NOW!!!

[Elsie]

My point is that most of what you say with complete assurance is a matter of interpretation, not text.

Your 'point' is pointless.

There is NOTHING to 'interpret' about PERSONAGES posing as RELIGIOUS figures.

[ejonesie22]

It doesn't even deserve the honor of being called hyperbole.

I don't know what it is to tell you the truth.

Silly is all I can come up with.