Posted on 03/02/2009 11:47:15 AM PST by NYer
No, wait, that's not it.
"I am a pro-spousal abuse Catholic because my Catholic faith tells me I can be."
Uh, hold on.
"I am a pro-murder Catholic because my Catholic faith tells me I can be."
Ugh. Sorry, there must be a technical glitch here. One second.
Oh, here it is:
Yeah, that's from a piece in the good ol' National "Catholic" Reporter titled, "I am a prochoice Catholic," penned by Kate Childs Graham. Graham was once, she writes, opposed to abortion, but then she had a conversion experience on the road to, uh, somewhere:
And thus started my process of discernment around the right to abortion. It took several years. I asked friends on both sides of the issue thousands of questions. I read book after book. I prayed. I studied what the church hierarchy had to say about the issue. I studied what the Catholic church -- the faithful -- had to say about the issue.
The conscience, you see, is the Greatest Thing Ever, even greater than God, truth, good, and evil. No, seriously: if you follow Graham's argument to its logical end, that's what she is implying. She knows the Church clearly and consistently condemns abortion and yet she insists her "well-informed conscience" (!) has primacy over said teaching. Making matters worse, she provides a very selective and misleading excerpt from the Catechism of the Catholic Church, which is drawn from Gaudium et Spes. The larger context is, of course, helpful:
The Catechism says of abortion: "Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable. Direct abortion, that is to say, abortion willed either as an end or a means, is gravely contrary to the moral law" (par 2271). Since the passage from Gaudium et Spes states that the rightly formed conscience summons man "to love good and avoid evil" and "to be guided by the objective norms of morality," it cannot lead a truly informed person to say in good conscience: "I am a prochoice Catholic because my Catholic faith tells me I can be."
Pope John Paul II, in Evangelium Vitae, reflected on how our consciences can be warped and turned away from truth:
And:
And especially:
That's heavy stuff. And it is backed up by the Catechism, which doesn't uphold the skewed notion of "the primacy of conscience":
Ignorance of Christ and his Gospel, bad example given by others, enslavement to one's passions, assertion of a mistaken notion of autonomy of conscience, rejection of the Church's authority and her teaching, lack of conversion and of charity: these can be at the source of errors of judgment in moral conduct.
If - on the contrary - the ignorance is invincible, or the moral subject is not responsible for his erroneous
judgment, the evil committed by the person cannot be imputed to him. It remains no less an evil, a privation, a disorder. One must therefore work to correct the errors of moral conscience.
A good and pure conscience is enlightened by true faith, for charity proceeds at the same time "from a pure heart and a good conscience and sincere faith." (pars 1792-94; emphasis added)
Joseph Ratzinger has written quite a bit on conscience, including the book, On Conscience. In that work he remarks:
Why this obvious truth is not obvious is, well, not obvious to me. Dr. Ed Peters (who first brought the column to my attention), writes of Graham's column:
Definitely read his entire post on the "In the Light of the Law" blog.
"Our personal conscience is supreme" (Feb. 7, 2007)
The Truth About Conscience | John F. Kippley
Ping!
Sorry, but you're dealing with a liberal. They suffer from arrested development of logical. When they arrive at the spot that beenfits them personally, they stop and declare the argument over.
The book of Jude addresses Kate’s assertion directly. Sorry Kate, your misguided logic puts you on the path to destroy your own soul.
This woman is truly impressive example of the human capacity for self-deception. And as for the "Reporter" printing it? They are beneath contempt.
That worked for Rudy Giuliani.
Reminds me of that joke about the old guy who'd followed his own sweet way all his life. After he was diagnosed with a fatal disease, a friend visiting came upon him reading the Bible. "I never thought I'd see this! What are you doing??" "Looking for loopholes . . ." ;-)
Her conscience should tell her to call herself something besides a Cathoilc , “cause she aint one”
To put it briefly, Graham is confused because she doesn’t understand what St. Thomas meant. He first of all makes a distinction between a correct and an erroneous conscience. Only a correct conscience binds absolutely . An erroneous conscience binds only relativity. Someone driving a car is bound to follow the rules of the road, but if he misreads a sign and goes into a ditch, , we say he has an accident. Error has no rights here.
Wasn't there a rock group called Twisted Sister?
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Good find.
Lol!!! That sounds like my dad.
Do you watch EWTN? Last night I caught a portion of Fr. William Casey's Lenten reflections. He commented on a recent survey indicating that the average American spends between 6 and 7 hours in front of the tv. When he asked certain individuals how much time they devote to prayer, the majority answered 5, maybe 10 minutes - many responded that they "didn't have the time". He then expounded on this, noting that when people pray, they often focus on themselves, asking for something to happen ... and quickly! We live in a fast-paced world where people want instant gratification. They are not interested in patience as demonstrated by countless stories of people offering up prayers over many years, in the Bible
The talk was excellent and I found myself chortling as he described so many of the people we all know. The program is on Sunday evenings at 10pm throughout Lent. You can listen to some of his presentations at the following link.

Fr. William Casey is Superior General of the Fathers of Mercy.
**He commented on a recent survey indicating that the average American spends between 6 and 7 hours in front of the tv. When he asked certain individuals how much time they devote to prayer, the majority answered 5, maybe 10 minutes - many responded that they “didn’t have the time”.**
Good for him for calling them to task in looking at the time in front of the TV. Haven’t watched anything since it went digital, and I really don’t miss it. (But then EWTN isn’t in our condo package either — bah!)
6-7 hours...daily? I might spend that much dedicated in 10 days. Maybe. If it's not performance week.
When he asked certain individuals how much time they devote to prayer, the majority answered 5, maybe 10 minutes - many responded that they "didn't have the time".
Oh, please. Cop out. In addition to tv, how many hours do they spend on the internet, listening to their iPods, working out (St. Ignatius Loyola saw no problem with exercising and praying at the same time). There's always time.
I do the Divine Mercy Chaplet On the treadmill every morning. Great way to eat up some distance.
Some years ago, I took a lapsed Catholic friend to a talk Fr. Casey gave at our church. He is an incredible speaker! After the talk, my friend went to confession w/Fr. Casey and re-joined the Church!
That is a great loss! However, you can watch many of the programs via the Internet. Their lenten series are excellent.
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