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Deceived By One Of The Best [find out what the "Baptist Mormon" has been up to recently]
Greater Things ^ | May 23, 2008 | Lynn Ridenhour

Posted on 03/01/2009 4:17:04 PM PST by Alex Murphy

An expose of John C. Bayley as a seducer of hundreds of women using the ruse of the name of God via dark magic.

I've been an ordained minister of the gospel since 1965. Been preaching the gospel nearly 50 years now, and for the past five years I have been a victim of John C. Bayley's dark, deep deceptions. And paid big time for it. He destroyed my family.

I failed to heed a simple, but profound and powerful truth uttered from the lips of our Savior:

"…by their fruits you shall know them…"

As said, I paid "big time." I lost my family. I lost my wife and my daughter to the seduction powers of this man. My wife divorced me to become one of John Bayley's "wives." And my daughter, for three years, would have nothing to do with her dad. John Bayley had her convinced I was an evil man.

The good news is – John C Bayley's witchcraft powers, his seducing spells, have been broken over my family. I do confess, though – it took 'round-the-clock, intense spiritual warfare for three straight days and nights to break the curse of his spell he had cast upon us. I literally "felt the powers of Voodoo" in the room. The good news is: I now have my wife and daughter back. We're re-united, a family stronger than ever. Cleansed by the precious power of the blood of Jesus and set free by His finished work on Calvary. But not before having gone through pure hell for 5 years.

Here's my journey in a nutshell. And for the sake of brevity, I give you simply the highlights. Let's begin by heeding the words of our Master: recognizing and discerning the difference between…

Gifts & Fruit

Notice, our Lord did not say – by their anointing you shall know them.

He did not say – by their signs and wonders you shall know them.

He did not say – by their charisma power you shall know them.

He did not say – by their anointed ministry you shall know them.

It's been my experience, having been in the ministry now, as said, for nearly 50 years – the young and old alike, Christ's mature sheep as well as his lambs, tend to forget a fundamental principle our Lord spoke:

"…Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord,' have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name? And I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, who practice lawlessness" (Matt.7:21-23).

We tend to naturally shy away from the above passage. Too negative.

But the danger is – we're so prone to accept a person because he or she has the anointing on their life, or because supernatural manifestations follow them. Fundamental mistake, says our Lord.

Note: the Lord says "I never knew you." He did not say they did not know Him!

What is our Lord getting at?...

He's saying -- one of his own followers can minister under his anointing, and the Lord not know that person. Not be intimate with him. Because of strongholds in that person's life, the Lord "does not know him." Does he know the Lord? Yes. Is he saved? Yes. Can he minister under the anointing and still be in bondage to all kinds of dark, demonic strongholds in his personal life at the same time? Yes. Can he "mix" the two worlds in his ministry? Mix the dark side? And the light? Yes. Can he draw from both good and evil? Yes. Can he use white and black magic--and the anointing of the Lord? Yes.

Why?...

Because the Lord does not take back his gifts! A gift is a gift. And the Lord is not an "Indian giver," as we say.

However, the confusion lies in our not distinguishing between the giver and the receiver.

A gift, for instance, reflects the nature and goodness of the giver, not the one who receives it. A gift tells us nothing about the person who receives the gift. A person moving under the power and anointing of the Holy Spirit tells us absolutely NOTHING about the fruit of that man's character. Or the lack of it. Why? Because, as said, a gift reflects the nature and goodness of the one who gave it; not the one who received it.

That's why Jesus said – by their fruits you shall know them. Not their gifts.

As believers, we tend to forget that. Especially Christ's lambs. And therein lies the danger. And the damage. We unconsciously, or consciously, get caught up and enamored by the charisma and the power of the man. To our own demise, I might add.

And that's what happened to me, to my wife, and to my daughter. We got caught up in the charm and charisma of this man! And ignored the warning signs. All three of us have since repented. My wife is under professional counseling, and I too have talked with a psychiatrist. As well as covered myself, my family, and my ministry with the counsel of Spirit-filled brethren. We're in the process of being healed. And though we're receiving help from here and there, we ultimately give Him all the glory.

Profile of the Sociopath

The psychiatrist asked, "Tell me about Mr. Bayley." I did.

"He's extremely charming and charismatic. And can 'read your mail.' He's very intuitive and always seems to sense what you want to hear." And I went on. Here's the deal:

According to the psychiatrist, the profile of a sociopath is usually:

1) very charming

2) somewhat brilliant

3) intelligent

4) very "in tune" with his surroundings

5) cameleon-like personality

6) ego-centric; universe revolves around them

7) no conscience

I was stunned. That's John C Bayley!

John's Cameleon Personality

For five years I shared the pulpit with this man off and on. We traveled together, ministering side by side. When I recently discovered who John really is, I confronted him.

I share but one email sent by John C Bayley to my wife.

When the Watchman letter came forth, John C Bayley phoned me and said, "Let's go to lunch." We went to Applebee's. During that lunch, John told me that there were very few men of God whom he sought council from in times of stress, and I was one of them. He remarked that he highly regarded my friendship.

In an email dated 4/9/2007, 12:09 am, Mr. Bayley made the following comment to my wife:

"You are beginning to see the light! Lynn is so 'lame' as a man, that it is pathetic! The only person I have ever met in my entire life who is worse than Lynn in that way, is Roy. What a pair!" Lord help us (no, Lord help them!)."

(end of excerpt)

"...You're Having Sex with John Bayley..."

Just recently my wife asked me if I would pray for her. She was suffering from the flu. While praying for her healing, as clear as day, the Spirit of God spoke, "she's having sex with John Bayley." I immediately stopped my prayer for her healing, and said:

"...You're having sex with John Bayley..."

That set her free. Or it was the beginning of her journey out of darkness into freedom.

John's M-O

Let me share with you Mr. Bayley's modus operandi.

1) He first preys on a family's point of vulnerability. As said, John is exceptionally capable of "honing" in on a person's weakness. Like a lion hunting, stalking his prey, Mr. Bayley is very patient. That's why he's so successful in the hunt. John is willing to wait years, if need be, before he moves in for the kill.

2) He then exasperates a problem that's 1) already present in the marriage, or 2) he manufactures a problem that doesn't exist.

Why? So he can be the "one sent by God" to rescue, and minister to the couple. And "fix" the problem.

The objective here is to get the husband and wife at odds with each other. Remember, Mr. Bayley's ultimate objective is: 1) get the wife in bed, and 2) get the family's credit card.

3) He eventually wins over the family's confidence. I, for one, thought he was a great man of God. He had me convinced. My wife and daughter believed his words spoken were the very words of Christ. I never did go that far, but nevertheless, I wholeheartedly believed in the man for five years. Of course, all along Mr. Bayley was sleeping with my wife, and secretly turning my wife and daughter against me. My wife had given him our credit card, gave him a cell phone and was paying his monthly phone bill and storage unit. Plus giving Mr. Bayley our tithe. And I'm convinced, we're merely the tip of the iceberg -- one family out of hundreds. Maybe thousands. You must remember -- John Bayley has been doing this for over 45 years.

One day while Mr. Bayley and I were having lunch together, as he was paying for our lunch, I noticed he pulled out a stack of credit cards about two inches thick, thumbed through them and handed one to the cashier. That should have been a sign for me.

That brings us to the heart of the matter. All of us so wanted this man to be the "real deal" that we were willing to overlook the small signals along the way. I have repented to the Lord for doing so. Which brings us to Mr. Bayley's final M-0:

4) To feed his sexual addiction, as well as his ability to continue getting money to travel the world by using the Name of God. By using the ministry for personal profit and sex. It's quite the camouflage, really.

It is my prayer – if you ever run across the man YOU WILL RUN THE OTHER WAY!

Lynn Ridenhour


TOPICS: Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; Ministry/Outreach; Other Christian
KEYWORDS: lynnridenhour
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I failed to heed a simple, but profound and powerful truth uttered from the lips of our Savior:
"…by their fruits you shall know them…"

Related FR threads on Lynn Ridenhour:
The Baptist version of The Book of Mormon
Clearing up Baptist Background Controversy

For a timeline of Ridenhour's activities and whereabouts prior to this article, see these posts:
1963-1996, omitting 1985-1990
State of Kansas: Lynn Ridenhour's conviction for securities fraud: 1985 - 1990

1 posted on 03/01/2009 4:17:05 PM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy
Huh? Who are these people?

2) He then exasperates a problem

YES, I'm sure he does. Exacerbates it too, I'll bet. But I really don't care.

2 posted on 03/01/2009 4:27:04 PM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Beloved Levinite; TwelveOfTwenty; arderkrag; dixiebelle; raynearhood; Between the Lines; Enosh; ...

Baptist Ping


3 posted on 03/01/2009 4:33:13 PM PST by WKB
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To: greyfoxx39; Pan_Yans Wife; MHGinTN; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; Osage Orange; Greg F; ...

Flying Inman Ping.

I don’t know much about this man Ridenhour, but he certainly describes a sociopathic con-man to a tee. Sounds a bit like Prophet Joseph Smith.


4 posted on 03/01/2009 4:36:45 PM PST by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: colorcountry

1) He first preys on a family’s point of vulnerability. As said, John is exceptionally capable of “honing” in on a person’s weakness. Like a lion hunting, stalking his prey, Mr. Bayley is very patient. That’s why he’s so successful in the hunt. John is willing to wait years, if need be, before he moves in for the kill.

2) He then exasperates a problem that’s 1) already present in the marriage, or 2) he manufactures a problem that doesn’t exist.

Why? So he can be the “one sent by God” to rescue, and minister to the couple. And “fix”the problem.

The objective here is to get the husband and wife at odds with each other. Remember, Mr. Bayley’s ultimate objective is: 1) get the wife in bed, and 2) get the family’s credit card.

3) He eventually wins over the family’s confidence. I, for one, thought he was a great man of God. He had me convinced. My wife and daughter believed his words spoken were the very words of Christ. I never did go that far, but nevertheless, I wholeheartedly believed in the man for five years. Of course, all along Mr. Bayley was sleeping with my wife, and secretly turning my wife and daughter against me. My wife had given him our credit card, gave him a cell phone and was paying his monthly phone bill and storage unit. Plus giving Mr. Bayley our tithe. And I’m convinced, we’re merely the tip of the iceberg — one family out of hundreds. Maybe thousands. You must remember — John Bayley has been doing this for over 45 years.

One day while Mr. Bayley and I were having lunch together, as he was paying for our lunch, I noticed he pulled out a stack of credit cards about two inches thick, thumbed through them and handed one to the cashier. That should have been a sign for me.

That brings us to the heart of the matter. All of us so wanted this man to be the “real deal” that we were willing to overlook the small signals along the way. I have repented to the Lord for doing so. Which brings us to Mr. Bayley’s final M-0:

4) To feed his sexual addiction, as well as his ability to continue getting money to travel the world by using the Name of God. By using the ministry for personal profit and sex. It’s quite the camouflage, really.

It is my prayer – if you ever run across the man YOU WILL RUN THE OTHER WAY!


5 posted on 03/01/2009 4:39:09 PM PST by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: colorcountry
Can we use our magic decoder rings and avoid Moderator stomps? ... I'm a feared of angry Mormons don'tchaknow.

... End of message

6 posted on 03/01/2009 4:41:11 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: WKB; Sopater
He's saying -- one of his own followers can minister under his anointing, and the Lord not know that person. Not be intimate with him. Because of strongholds in that person's life, the Lord "does not know him." Does he know the Lord? Yes. Is he saved? Yes. Can he minister under the anointing and still be in bondage to all kinds of dark, demonic strongholds in his personal life at the same time? Yes. Can he "mix" the two worlds in his ministry? Mix the dark side? And the light? Yes. Can he draw from both good and evil? Yes. Can he use white and black magic--and the anointing of the Lord? Yes.

I find it very difficult to conceive of someone living that kind of life for so long being actually saved.

Satan can appear as an angel of light. I have no difficulty in believing that he'd make one of his own as smooth and deceptive, even to the point of appearing to be an anointed Christian.

I recall reading something somewhere that (I think it was CS Lewis) that Satan doesn't even mind if people do good things, as long as it serves his purposes in actually destroying the person and those around them.

7 posted on 03/01/2009 4:52:18 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: MHGinTN
Certainly! . Any tool that is useful SHOULD be used against this evil
8 posted on 03/01/2009 4:52:36 PM PST by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: Alex Murphy
He's saying -- one of his own followers can minister under his anointing, and the Lord not know that person. Not be intimate with him. Because of strongholds in that person's life, the Lord "does not know him." Does he know the Lord? Yes. Is he saved? Yes. Can he minister under the anointing and still be in bondage to all kinds of dark, demonic strongholds in his personal life at the same time? Yes. Can he "mix" the two worlds in his ministry? Mix the dark side? And the light? Yes. Can he draw from both good and evil? Yes. Can he use white and black magic--and the anointing of the Lord? Yes.

See, I disagree with this. If you are saved, the Lord knows you. Period. The people the Lord is referring to in Matt.7:21-23 are people who claim to be saved and "anointed" (a term I don't like as it is used by the decidedly non-Christian charismatic movement) and who lead others astray (Ex. - Kenneth Copeland and others like him). These people aren't Christians and never have been. They are lost.

And the will of the Father referenced in the verse by Our Lord is the acceptance of the gift of eternal life.
9 posted on 03/01/2009 4:57:22 PM PST by arderkrag (Liberty Walking (www.geocities.com/arderkrag))
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To: metmom
I recall reading something somewhere that (I think it was CS Lewis) that Satan doesn't even mind if people do good things, as long as it serves his purposes in actually destroying the person and those around them.

Precisely. Satanists make plenty of charitable donations. Why? To draw people in to their false doctrines.
10 posted on 03/01/2009 4:59:30 PM PST by arderkrag (Liberty Walking (www.geocities.com/arderkrag))
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To: colorcountry; Alex Murphy

What’s a “Baptist Mormon” ????


11 posted on 03/01/2009 5:10:49 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Alex Murphy

Sounds like con man meets corn pone.
The pulpit wasn’t all they were sharing and ole John seems to have gotten away with more than a fair share of the spoils.
Just ain’t no honor among thieves anymore.


12 posted on 03/01/2009 5:22:24 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

I’m willing to bet real money that it’s something not good.


13 posted on 03/02/2009 1:52:07 AM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: Alex Murphy

Not this loon again.

Good to see you back Alex. Drop by and let some of your old friends know how you’re doing.


14 posted on 03/02/2009 6:40:41 AM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: Alex Murphy

Sounds like Old Joe Smith.

What in the world is a “Baptist Mormon.” Sort of sounds like a “Christian Pagan” or a “Drunken Teetotaler.”


15 posted on 03/02/2009 11:49:37 AM PST by TFMcGuire (Life is tough. It is even tougher if you are stupid--John Wayne)
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