Anti-Mormon: The Mormon N-Word (Open)

Mormonism Research Ministry ^ | Bill McKeever

[Zakeet]

Speaking at its annual conference held in Detroit in July 2007, NAACP Chairman Julian Bond called on the American public and the entertainment industry to stop using the “N-Word.” Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick added, “Today we’re not just burying the N-word, we’re taking it out of our spirit.” I applaud this effort, and with it I offer my own challenge to Mormons everywhere to bury their own infamous “N-word,” that being the word “anti-Mormon.”

As with the word “[snip],” the word “anti-Mormon” is meant to be nothing more than an ugly pejorative. It is usually slapped on anyone who questions or disagrees with the teachings of the LDS faith and implies that the perceived critic is somehow “against” (anti) Mormons (as individuals). I’m certainly not against Mormons; in fact, I personally feel I have something better to offer them than what they already claim to have. Technically, that makes me “pro-Mormon,” though I admit I am against Mormonism.

Far too many Mormons automatically assume that Christians who wish to challenge LDS presuppositions are somehow motivated by hate. Such an assumption seems to be borne more out of laziness on the part of the accuser rather than the result of critical thinking skills. It is easy to accuse someone of hatred; after all, that word gets a lot of mileage in our dumbed-down culture. The intellectually indolent person somehow feels no need to evaluate what has been said once he has successfully assassinated a person’s character. However, when Mormons flippantly throw down the hate card, they certainly run the risk of bearing false witness.

I would be the first to admit that this disparaging label had some real meaning during the early and mid-1800’s, but it certainly does not fit the great majority of people Mormon apologists have attached it to in modern days. Articles from LDS apologetic groups such as FAIR and FARMS (now the Neal Maxwell Institute) are peppered with this word, sometimes to the point of monotony. The irony is that while such organizations desperately want to be recognized for their “scholarship,” they fail to realize that true scholarly material tends to refrain from such ad hominem. This behavior has not gone unnoticed by those known for their thoughtful contributions to this subject. In their book Mormon America, Richard and Joan Ostling note, “The FARMS team is particularly shrill in its rhetoric, an odd pose for an organization that seeks to win intellectual respectability for the church. All too often Saints use the label ‘anti-Mormon’ as a tactic to forestall serious discussion” (p. 376).

Modern Mormons who equate questions and disagreement with persecution need to do some serious rethinking. In my opinion, Mormons who lump those who challenge the truth claims of Mormonism with the persecutions of the past actually bring dishonor to the Mormon pioneers who truly suffered. Considering what some of the early Mormons went through, I am sure they would view with contempt a modern Mormon who whines about being “persecuted” simply because someone challenged their faith.

Thankfully, some Mormon thinkers disagree with fellow members and have chosen to refrain from using this unnecessary language. They recognize that even though some folks have sharp theological disagreements with Mormonism, their purpose is not at all to bring harm to the LDS people. “Anti-Mormon” is an overused moniker that needed to be jettisoned long ago, and I call on every Mormon to bury their own “N-word,” once and for all.

[restornu]

Good for you Reaganesque I missed that post!

Why should it irk some if you stand up for what you know and believe.

If Mitt was Harry Reid we would also crucify him.

They can’t have it both ways seeing that we are revolted by Reid and cheer Mitt because he is a conservative.

The LDS should feel flattered that some are so invested as to keep an archived on us.

Just think about this who really are the antagonist, thin skin etc does a stalker qualify?

[count-your-change]

I think I have a solution. If someone is being critical for its own sake, don't respond! The target, if they are such, can simply refrain from hitting the reply button.

Please see tagline, whiners, it really is true!

[Godzilla]

3 Nephi 9:1-15
Zarahemla destroyed - vs 3
Moroni destroyed - vs 4
Moronihah destroyed - vs 5
Gilgal destroyed - vs 6
Onihah, Mocum, Jerusalem destroyed - vs 7
Gadiand, Gadiomnah, Jacob, Gimgimno destroyed - vs 8
Jacobugath destroyed - vs 9
Laman, Josh, Gad, Kishkumen - vs 10

That is 16 cities and inhabitants resty. But you knew Jesus distroyed them anyway since you read your bom.

[Godzilla]

so you are saying this thread is a LDS source?

Resty, you are soooooooo funny. By now you should know exactly what I am speaking of. Have you figured out that Joseph Smith taught that Jehovah is heavenly father yet :)

[restornu]

3 Nephi 9:1-15
Zarahemla destroyed - vs 3
Moroni destroyed - vs 4
Moronihah destroyed - vs 5
Gilgal destroyed - vs 6
Onihah, Mocum, Jerusalem destroyed - vs 7
Gadiand, Gadiomnah, Jacob, Gimgimno destroyed - vs 8
Jacobugath destroyed - vs 9
Laman, Josh, Gad, Kishkumen - vs 10

That is 16 cities and inhabitants resty. But you knew Jesus distroyed them anyway since you read your bom

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Thank you Godzilla, and now may I remind you the same thing happen in the OT when the Lord saw same distruction being brought upon those people who were striving to live righteously.

This testifies it is the same Jehovah/Jesus!

[Tennessee Nana]

we are revolted by Reid
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Harry Reid is a MORMON...

So anyone who is “revolted by Reid” is a BIGOT...

And an anti-MORMON...

They dont like Reid just cause he’s a MORMON...

You were saying ????

[Tennessee Nana]

(We) cheer Mitt because he is a conservative.
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Ol’ liberal Mitt Romney is so far left he makes Harry Reid look conservative...

You go Harry...

You’ll be changing parties any day now...

[Tennessee Nana]

If Mitt was Harry Reid we would also crucify him.
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Well, I understand the worship and deification of Mitt Romney...

I’ve watch it for two years now...

He walks on walk, has “godly” hair, etc...

But Harry Reid is worth of crucifying also ???

Y’OK...

[Old Mountain man]

That was the Democrat Church.

[Tennessee Nana]

The LDS should feel flattered that some are so invested as to keep an archived on us.
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Well, The LDS call it their Bee Hive...

You know...

The place where they archived the historical documants about the early years of mormonism...

At least that’s where they keep hidden away the ones they didnt destroy because the contents told the truth about Joe Smith...

“Hmmmmmmmmmm, this one says Joe Smith was arrested for peep stone looking and sheep stealing. Better burn this one.”

“Here’s one that’s an affidavit signed by all eight of the “witnesses” stating they lied about seeing the gold plates, and only went along with Joe Smith for a cut of the action. Where’s them matches got to.”

“Here’s a tintype of Joe Smith french kissing 14 year old Helen Bar Kimball. Hmmm think I’ll keep that one as insurance for my own safety.”

[Tennessee Nana]

Why should it irk some if you stand up for what you know and believe.
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Yes, why are those mormons so irked ????

[Old Mountain man]

“Here’s a little snippit about Billy Graham talking with Richard Nixon about those evil jews.”

[Reaganesque]

When did Christ teach His Gospel through confrontation? Even when He threw out the money-changers in the temple, he didn’t just denounce them but then explained why He did it. When the Pharisees and the Sadduccees tried to trip up the Savior with their questions, what was His usual response? He cited the scriptures and explained the point of doctrine in question. He didn’t lay into them with anger, heavy sarcasm and ridicule. At the heart of the Gospel is Christ’s love and confrontation and argument are incompatible with that love.

I think that a large part of the problem (here on FR, anyway) is having a religious discussion on what is, for the most part, a political website. Politics is confrontational. Politics is meant to be confrontational. Unfortunately, religion has been confrontational in the past, it is now and will likely be so in the future. But is was not meant to be that way. That people should be angry with those who do not agree with them is not consistent with Christ’s teachings as most Christians know them.

I’m sorry that our attempts at finding common ground with traditional Christianity is so offensive to some. It was not intended that way. For my part, I have no problem stating that I am not a “Christian just like you.”

[Elsie]

Criticism is all well and good and frequently necessary but the spirit in which it is offered is a key factor.

Boo hoo...

You ANTI's don't speak nice to use; you GENTILE bigot haters!

[Elsie]

 

This holier-than-thou preaching from the self-proclaimed lofty perch by some people on this thread is getting REAL tiresome....

 

Did SOMEone say...

 

 

MORMON

ATTITUDES OF SUPERIORITY

 

 1. I’m Superior; I have a special gift of the holy Ghost - you don’t!
 2. I’m Superior; I have God’s true priesthood power - you don’t!
 3. I’m Superior; I can go in God’s secret Temple - you can’t!
 4. I’m Superior; I’ve been Endowed with special Gifts and Knowledge - you’re just normal!
 5. I’m Superior; I’ll have my family with me in heaven - you’ll be with strangers!
 6. I’m Superior; I’m becoming a God - you aren’t!
 7. I’m Superior; My women know their place as servants of man and yours don’t.
 8. I’m Superior; YOUR creeds are wrong because they come from man - mine comes from God (you can find each one printed in our Scriptures).
 9. I’m Superior; I don’t HAVE a creed - I’ve got 13 Articles of Faith.
10. I’m Superior; I have four standard works and you only have one — in as far as it is translated correctly.
11. I’m Superior; I can lie with impunity about such things as church membership, church growth, church doctrine, church history, church influence, etc. — and you can’t.
12. I’m Superior; I am right (everybody knows) when I say 'evangelical' Christians are lunatics --

                        -- You’re a hideous narrow-minded bigot, who is persecuting me by practicing discrimination by saying I'm not  a Christian.
13. I’m Superior; I have a Living Prophet who talks to god every day — you have a dim-witted hireling of Satan who only talks to himself.
14. I’m Superior; I have magic underwear to protect me from the bogey man and you don’t.
15. I’m Superior; I have secret clasps and grips to give the angel so I get admitted to the celestial kingdom — you don’t so you can’t.
16. I’m Superior; I will see Joseph Smith setting on the right hand of GOD, when I get to Mormon heaven, and he will recognize me and judge me favorably —

                        -- You’re  on your own; when you get to wherever you’re going!
17. I’m Superior; I’m going to hie to Kolob while you’re going to who knows where.
18. I’m Superior; I get to have a harem and act like a celestial stud for time and all eternity and you don’t.
19. I’m Superior; I have sun stones, moon stones, sky stones, cloud stones, Saturn stones, and the evil eye of Osirus guarding my temple — all you have is a stupid cross.
20. I’m Superior; My church has billions in assets stashed away and yours has taken a stupid vow of poverty.

[restornu]

Blessed be the Peacemaker

Yes, continually pray for those who still the waters for they are of the Lord!

[Elsie]

 

Agreed. And if anyone will provide me with an example where I have done this, intentionally or otherwise, I will promptly apologize to the injured parties.

 

 

Gentile:  you just don't get it!

 

WE don't have to give any evidence; for WE always tell the TRUTH so...

 

When WE say YOU have LIED - YOU have.

When WE say YOU have been obnoxious - YOU have.

When WE say YOU have misrepresented our teachings - YOU have.

 

EVERYone reading these threads know THIS.

 

WE are very forgiving, and if you wish to learn of the Restored Gospel®, WE would be happy to send a coupkle of our highly trained missionaries to your home to instruct you.

 

 

--MormonDude(we truly love you)

[Elsie]

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WHERE have you BEEN??

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'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,' it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.'

'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.'

'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'

Alice was too much puzzled to say anything; so after a minute Humpty Dumpty began again. 'They've a temper, some of them - particularly verbs: they're the proudest - adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs - however, I can manage the whole lot of them! Impenetrability! That's what I say!'

[Godzilla]

Thank you Godzilla, and now may I remind you the same thing happen in the OT when the Lord saw same distruction being brought upon those people who were striving to live righteously.

But Jesus after his death did not destroy ANY city in Israel - big difference from the OT. So Jesus did, according to the bom, destory cities in america upon his return. Definitely wasn't seeking to save those who were lost was he.

This testifies it is the same Jehovah/Jesus!

Too bad Joseph Smith doesn't share that same testimony.

[Elsie]

Thank you Godzilla, and now may I remind you the same thing happen in the OT ...

And NOW is a good time to REMIND the lurkers that many of THOSE cities have been excavated and studied; while MORMON cities still remain, at the very least; unknown.