Posted on 01/24/2009 2:22:21 PM PST by 444Flyer
There I was, watching all the regalia of the presidential inauguration. The crowds, the dignataries...(snip) Of course, I was also waiting to see just what kind of prayer Rick Warren had co-opted to pray for the new incoming President and his administration.
(Excerpt) Read more at ericbarger.com ...
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Are you quoting Agent 99?
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As a born-again Christian, I have never recognized Warren as a fellow believer.
However, my opinion doesn’t count; it’s between him and God, or him and Satan.
Amos, you know I love you but—I was responding to a post that sounded like a Popeye quote. I think God has a sense of humor (he made me after all). It doesn’t meant I don’t *get* the gravity of the situation. Of course, I also know that HE is in control, and I trust that He is going to take care of everything.
Psst...be careful, apparently no joking allowed!
The god of the Koran is not the God of the Bible. The Koran's god is more closely related to one of the graven images for which the people of Israel were punished for worshipping.
If you’re not aware that Hebrew letters and words have a numeric value, and that the numeric value has meaning in and of itself, then that whole “666” business must be very confusing for you.
I’m not surprised. His Bible call God, “I AM WHAT I AM.” When his proper name is, “I AM THAT I AM.” Research the difference in those meanings and you will see why we have a bunch of Joel Osteens running around. Wealthy preachers who are ashamed of the Gospel.
Which bible would that be? Rev. Rick uses, so I read, whatever bible version suits him.
In my Bible, when asked his Name by Moses, G-d replied,
“I AM WHO AM”
G-d then instructed Moses to tell his people that “HE WHO IS” has sent Moses to deliver them from the land of Egypt.
This seems, IMO, to coincide with Jesus declaring to the Pharisees,
“Before Abraham was, I am.”
Allah is a deceiving spirit, certainly not the God of the Bible. Some think Allah is just a sand jinn. I think it’s Baal, myself.
This “Isa” of the Koran did not die on the cross, and did not rise on the third day. Therefore, “Isa” is the very definition of an anti-Christ.
And there stood Rick Warren, so needy of worldly approval, invoking the name of an anti-Christ, in prayer.
Delusion.
One could likely make a case for Obama being THE antichrist with Warren as his false prophet. I figure that by the time it is truly clear, I will be gone. (Pretrib rapture believer here)
You could be right. But, there are a lot of things that would have to occur in an extremely rapid manner.
Your belief in pretrib rapture is mistaken, imho. It’s not a debate that could endanger anyone’s salvation, though, so it’s not a point to argue strenuously. I do think people should prepare themselves, though. Christians will live through, and many die in, the tribulation, as far as I’ve been able to understand.
In a practical sense, it makes little difference: things will be plenty bad before the “great escape” no matter whether you are pre, post, or mid...
I did not know this information about the word “Isa.” However, I want to say why I was extremely excited about Warren’s prayer. He prayed the “Lord’s Prayer.” As he prayed it, I prayed it in the gym of our public school, and marveled that I was praying it aloud in the midst of hundreds of people. It was exhilarating!
Are you quoting Agent 99?
They are Strong's Concordance numbers.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
by Eric Barger
Almighty God, our father, (Mar 12:29 Jesus answered, "The foremost is,)Eric seems to have missed the opening of Rick Warren's invocation.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
Let us pray.
The Shema as prayed by Yah'shua and
everything we see and everything we can't see
exists because of you alone. It all comes from you,
it all belongs to you. It all exists for your glory.
History is your story.
'HEAR, O ISRAEL! THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD;
recorded by Peter's amanuensis, Mark.
by Eric Barger
Almighty God, our father, (Mar 12:29 Jesus answered, "The foremost is,)Eric seems to have missed the opening of Rick Warren's invocation.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
Let us pray.
The Shema as prayed by Yah'shua and
everything we see and everything we can't see
exists because of you alone. It all comes from you,
it all belongs to you. It all exists for your glory.
History is your story.
'HEAR, O ISRAEL! THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD;
recorded by Peter's amanuensis, Mark.
If you're not aware of what a joke is, that whole humor thing must be very confusing for you.
“And you are the compassionate and merciful one.”
The NKJV of the translation of the Bible translate James 5:11b as “-that the Lord is very compassionate and merciful.”
But that statement is also related to one of the false god Allah's most holy names in Islam. And is at the beginning of every chapter of the Qur’an (except one) and is used as an invocation.
http://jihadwatch.org/archives/024478.php
With all the titles Warren could have addressed the Lord by after the Shema he chose one that could be interspersed with Islam and Allah. What are the chances that particular phrase was connected to the Shema by Warren and he was unaware of its connection with the Qur’an? Then he ends his prayer not with Jesus Christ but with a list of names for “Jesus” minus his Messianic title. And one of them was Isa the jesus of Islam.
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