Posted on 01/18/2009 8:59:21 PM PST by Marechal
Billions of people attend millions of churches around the world to worship God.
Yet the God they worship is completely imaginary. Their belief represents a delusion.
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Why is that?
Concept of zero (vacuum/Higgs field/whatever) energy loss makes it plausible. Unicorns are plausible as well though... :)
1 Corinthians 12:4-11 (NIV):
There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit. There are different kinds of service, but the same Lord. There are different kinds of working, but the same God works all of them in all men.
Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. To one there is given through the Spirit the message of wisdom, to another the message of knowledge by means of the same Spirit, to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues. All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he gives them to each one, just as he determines.
What does the "gift of healing" mean here? Clearly Paul was not under the impression that all believers had it.
What is I believe that Thor and Vishnu are imaginary? Is that also faith?
But I suppose if I viewed an infinite multi-verse as plausible, I could certainly deduce it was plausible that some universes might have unicorns.
This is correct. Faith is never a guarantee of virtue; neither is non-belief.
Additionally, there's not a single charitable or moral action that can be taken by a believer and not by a non-believer.
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Certainly. I share this faith. But, if we are wrong, we risk offending them.
Faith is perception that one acts upon.
To illustrate with more precision, consider "belief" which is also a perception. Faith differs in two ways.
1) The word "belief" implies being close to certainty, where "faith" does not (but neither does faith exclude being close to certainty).
2) "Faith" implies that some decision is based on the perception. "Belief" does not imply this.
For more contrast, the word "know" means essentially the same as "belief", both being a perception, but implies even more certainty than "belief" does. However, again it excludes no certainty unless the user of the words deliberately creates the contrast as in: "I believe so, but I don't know for sure."
Thus, it is possible to show faith in something that you are uncertain of, by taking some action under the assumption that it is true. However even if you are sure, if you take action it is faith.
Saying we have faith in something does not mean there is any particular reason to doubt its veracity. Heck the more certain we are about something, the more likely we will have faith in it.
OK, well I misunderstood you. But hope my lengthy response clarified what I think "faith" means.
> God is imaginary.
And so is electric power.
AC power will not work without imaginary numbers.
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Fascinating. I had no idea (I prefer to blame the public school system rather than my own sloth).
And if his wikipedia page can be believed, he was at odds with conventional science and with Einstein.
OK, I read to quickly. Seems Einstein did change his mind about Monsignor.
OK...so “Monsingnor” is a title not the guys name...don’t look at me...I don’t even know me.
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“And do NOT make it personal.”
That’s BS. You let personal attacks slip through all the time.
FYI it wasn’t a personal attack. The comment I responded to stated beliefs based on someone’s “faith”. I stated that neither I nor anyone else cares about their “faith”. That is not a personal attack.
110 posted on Monday, January 19, 2009 10:11:10 AM by gpk9
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112 posted on Monday, January 19, 2009 10:19:19 AM by Religion Moderator
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That worked out well.
Please do not ping someone who has been asked to leave the thread.
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Anyone who wants any of the Nine Gifts of the Spirit can have them, if they spend time praying, fasting, and seeking for them. The Holy Spirit without measure is available to us all. That doesn't mean that everyone WILL seek it, but it is available to all.
But that's not the point I'm trying to make. I'm not talking about the Gift of healing, I'm talking about healing itself. Anyone who wanted to be healed and had the faith to believe was healed in Bible...from the centurion to the woman with the issue of blood.
I do believe that any who seeks can have, as Acts 2:39 says "For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to ALL that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call."
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