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The War of Gog and Magog
RaptureReady.com ^ | Not Given | Joseph Chambers

Posted on 01/11/2009 11:49:33 AM PST by GiovannaNicoletta

As the greatest supernatural intervention of human history -- a defense right out of heaven above -- Israel's God is going to reveal Himself. When this Divine display is finished, the Muslim religion will be stripped of all its glory. It will no doubt cause great anger among the hard core Muslims that escape death but a turning to Jesus Christ of those honest individuals that see the glory of our Eternal God. The Muslim religion is a farce when it is seen for what it really represents. Already millions of former Muslims have turned to Christ and the harvest has barely begun. One Saudi sheikh says in disgust that six million Muslims are converting to Christ yearly.

This coming war will serve as the eternal design of Bible prophecy. Men may well look at such a catastrophic devastation as cruel and beyond the acts of a Holy God, but this expression of wrath has been building for many centuries. It will include judgments against many vile and Godless acts of terror, great hatred manifest against the Jewish people, and hatred toward God Himself. Germany will receive her final judgment for the Holocaust and Russia will be judged for her atheistic hatred against her own people, as well as against Israelis and Christians. The Muslim religion will answer for centuries of vileness and defiance against the true and living God. The catastrophic level of God's wrath will be in the exact proportion to the wicked history of the nations involved.

This war could not occur until the nation of Israel was back in a portion of the Promise Land. There is not enough military might in the entire armies of the world to change God's promises. Israel is already a rich nation and is becoming richer every day. Their military is without parallel. They have discovered massive reserves of oil and eventually that discovery will be greater than all the Arab nations combined. How do we know that their oil deposits will be the world's greatest? The Promise Land and her treasures were ordained to flow as "milk and honey."

There are several promises for the discovery of oil by the Jewish people. God said, "For the precious things of heaven, for the dew, and for the deep that coucheth beneath…for they shall suck of the abundance of the seas, and of treasures hid in the sand…and let him dip his foot in oil" (Deuteronomy 33:13, 19, and 24). Someone can argue whether "the deep that coucheth beneath, treasures hid in the sand" or "dip his foot in oil" means oil deposits; but if we take these words literally, they are indeed powerful.

It is important that we know the Biblical reason for the War of Gog and Magog. It is Israel's riches and abundance that Russia covets. We know why the Muslims want to eliminate Israel, but Russia and much of her coalition forces want the treasures and wealth. If you study the unbelievable agricultural success, the technological brilliance, the military capabilities, and then add the possibility of billions of barrels of black gold, you will understand that Russia can see nothing but worldwide wealth and dominance.

One of their top politicians and advocates of this war to the south has left no room for guessing. Here are the words of Vladimir Volfovich Zhirinovsky, a strategic ally of Putin:

The mighty God of our Bible has allowed enough of His extension of grace. It's time for judgment and it's time to make all His glory visible to the human family. Listen to God's promise of intervention. "And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes. Thus saith the Lord GOD; Art thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days many years that I would bring thee against them? And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face" (Ezekiel 38:16-18).

I pray that America will be there to help in this hour, but we will not be needed. I actually believe, contrary to many, that we will be faithful to Israel to the end. That will be the reason God honors America as a sheep nation in Matthew chapter twenty-five. Regardless, this will end the worldwide threat from Muslim terrorists and will sweep the Temple Mount in Jerusalem of every semblance of the false sun-god, named Allah.

Unnamed pestilences and blood will rain on the army of millions. The rain will be overflowing and mixed with hailstones, fire, and brimstones. It will be massive and will actually fall from Heaven in such a manner that no one will doubt that it is God Himself that fights for Israel. The Bible is careful to state that the slaughter of this mob of wicked people extends back to their staging countries and capital cities. "And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I am the LORD. So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people Israel; and I will not let them pollute my holy name any more: and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, the Holy One in Israel" (Ezekiel 39:6-7).

Magog represents the Russian capital of Moscow and this Scripture includes the other nations which join this coalition. The judgment will leave no doubt about God's rejection of the Muslim Koran and religion. The world is trying to convince us that the Muslim god is identical to our Heavenly Father and His Son, Jesus Christ. This lie will die with Gog and Magog in the mountains of Israel and in the nations that join this end time war.

The glory of God will be manifest and the world will know. Out of this massive judgment will be a mighty visitation of Holy Ghost awakening. Joel settled the utter destruction of the Northern horde and promised the Latter Rain of God's Spirit. He said by the Holy Spirit, "But I will remove far off from you the northern army… Fear not, O land; be glad and rejoice: for the LORD will do great things" (Joel 2:20a, 21). He added the Latter Rain promise two verses later, "He will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first month" (Joel 2:23b). The first month is the Feast of Trumpets, the next unfulfilled feast of Israel. It is also a Jewish type for the coming Rapture of Christ's Bride.

We are living in the golden age of the prophetic finishing of all things. Keep your eyes on the Holy Scripture and your heart in total surrender to the Lordship of our Savior and Captain, Jesus Christ.


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: bible; endtimes; gog; israel; magog; prophecy; rapture
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To: DouglasKC
So basically the prophecies regarding Gog and Magog have nothing to do with events leading up to the return of Christ. Keep a watchful eye on events of course but don;t look toward the Gog and Magog prophecies to see if they match up to current events because they won;t.

I thought I specifically clarified that one (Ezekiel's war) didn't have anything to do with the other (Armageddon campaign). I'm sorry if I didn't; however, it was my sincerest attempt to do so. I agree that we should keep watching events closely, but remember, Jesus stated only the fool says that the Lord delays His return. Just in case we're all wrong, we would be smart to remember that no man knows the day nor the hour. I disagree that Ezekiel's prophecies don't match up to current events. I believe current events are the definate precursors to what Ezekiel foretold of.

61 posted on 01/11/2009 5:27:27 PM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: strongbow
What was it about the 1800's that so many false prophets got so many so lost

Count 'em up. A lot of stuff (with quirky eschatologies) came out around then. A log of it out of the upstate NY "Burned Over District". Millerites, Adventism, LDS, Jehovah's Witnesses.

Margret McDonald

I had never heard that!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Macdonald_(Prophecy). A pretty thin reed to hinge an end times theory on.

I know there are plenty of pre-tribs out there (including my family) who are in Christ so don't shoot me for saying they are all cult members.

Historic premils aren't such a problem.

62 posted on 01/11/2009 6:03:57 PM PST by Lee N. Field (Dispensational exegesis not supported by an a-, post- or historic pre-mil scholar will be ignored.)
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To: PleaseNoMore
I thought I specifically clarified that one (Ezekiel's war) didn't have anything to do with the other (Armageddon campaign). I'm sorry if I didn't; however, it was my sincerest attempt to do so. I agree that we should keep watching events closely, but remember, Jesus stated only the fool says that the Lord delays His return. Just in case we're all wrong, we would be smart to remember that no man knows the day nor the hour. I disagree that Ezekiel's prophecies don't match up to current events. I believe current events are the definate precursors to what Ezekiel foretold of.

Sorry, I'm not really trying to put any words in your mouth so to speak. I'm mainly replying more to the premise that Ezekiel 38 and the Gog and Magog prophecies apply to events today. The posted article is making this case.

Unless something drastically changes in Israel the following verses do not describe Israel today:

Eze 38:11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,

This can only apply to an Israel that has been at peace for a very long time. Say 1000 years.

Eze 38:8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.

Again nobody is dwelling in safety in Israel today. But they will during the millennium.

Add this information along with the fact that Gog and Magog are mentioned in Revelation 20 as coming against Israel after the millennium and I think it's pretty clear that trying to predict todays events based on these prophecies is not very wise.

63 posted on 01/11/2009 6:05:28 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: mountn man
In the end, the battle of Armegeddon, the entire world gathers in the valley of Megeddo, or the Jezreel Valley, led by the AC, against Israel.

For your edification: Har Magedon: the End of the Millenium

64 posted on 01/11/2009 6:05:59 PM PST by Lee N. Field (Dispensational exegesis not supported by an a-, post- or historic pre-mil scholar will be ignored.)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta; nina0113
Actually, the "rapture belief" is in 1 Corinthians 15:51, 52 and 1 Thessalonians 4:16. The "idea" came from God and has been around a lot longer than the 19th century.

There is no evidence in Church history of a pre-trib rapture teaching prior to the the 1830s.

And please don't blame God for such an abysmal idea.

65 posted on 01/11/2009 6:17:15 PM PST by topcat54 ("Friends don't let friends become dispensationalists.")
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
The mighty God of our Bible has allowed enough of His extension of grace. It's time for judgment and it's time to make all His glory visible to the human family.

Another self-serving date-suggester from the rapture ready crowd.

One obvious problem with the analysis is that the only mention of Gog and Magog on the NT is found at the close of the thousand years (Rev. 20). This should prove unsettling for a futurist Israel-centered theology.

66 posted on 01/11/2009 6:17:55 PM PST by topcat54 ("Friends don't let friends become dispensationalists.")
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To: PleaseNoMore
1. In the Ezekiel invasion there are several allies mentioned and they are limited in number while others stand in opposition. In the campaign of Armageddon (discussed in Rev.) all nations are united against Israel without exception.

Explain the allies of Israel. I've been of the thought that Israel was alone, with no defenders, and unable or unwilling to defend itself. That the invaders are utterly destroyed by God.

Other than my question, I like your response, how you differentiated between the 2 wars.

67 posted on 01/11/2009 6:29:52 PM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: Lee N. Field

Would that synch with “More than Conquerers” by Hendrickson? I find more credibility in his exposition of Revelation than anything I have ever read. Still searching for the truth and have not consulted with any mediums, latter day prophets or gurus.


68 posted on 01/11/2009 6:52:53 PM PST by strongbow
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

There is some questions regarding Josephus’ writings and that being one of the sections but, suffice it to say that Russia will probably be included considering their love for conquest.

JB


69 posted on 01/11/2009 6:54:16 PM PST by thatjoeguy (Just my thoughts)
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To: mountn man

There are no allies to Israel. There is only a coalition of nations (allies) that come against Israel. She will be totally alone, and God will utterly destroy her enemies save 1/6th of them.


70 posted on 01/11/2009 7:12:17 PM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
If one believes Bible prophecy should be taken literally, the area now called Iraq is mentioned prominently as having a role to play in history yet to unfold.

But Babylon is not “literally” mentioned. Neither does the Bible ever use the term “Babylon” to refer to whatever government happened to be in charge of that plot of land in the Middle East, esp, modern Iraq. So you appear to be wrong on at least two counts.

Trying to shoehorn modern events into the Bible is a futile exercise.

71 posted on 01/11/2009 7:15:43 PM PST by topcat54 ("Friends don't let friends become dispensationalists.")
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To: strongbow
Would that synch with “More than Conquerers” by Hendrickson?

Give it a read, it's not real long.

Do not know. Looking at the Amazon.com description, that looks like the Hendrickson book is something I should pick up, one of these days.

72 posted on 01/11/2009 7:27:11 PM PST by Lee N. Field (Dispensational exegesis not supported by an a-, post- or historic pre-mil scholar will be ignored.)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
Actually, the "rapture belief" is in 1 Corinthians 15:51, 52 and 1 Thessalonians 4:16. The "idea" came from God and has been around a lot longer than the 19th century.

A brilliant case of eisegesis.
73 posted on 01/11/2009 7:28:11 PM PST by aruanan
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To: topcat54

Try reading Jeremiah he has a whole lot to say about Babylon and events taking place.


74 posted on 01/11/2009 7:29:06 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: Just mythoughts
Jeremiah he has a whole lot to say about Babylon and events taking place.

Please be specific. Jeremiah has a huge amount to say about Babylon, seeing as how God was very shortly to use Babylon to punish apostate Judah.

75 posted on 01/11/2009 7:32:47 PM PST by Lee N. Field (Dispensational exegesis not supported by an a-, post- or historic pre-mil scholar will be ignored.)
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To: Lee N. Field

I’ve been up on Megiddo...

It’s high and the area down below is flat for miles...

The blood will come up to the horses’ bridles...

Thats a lot of blood...

We know what will happen for The Bible has all the future events...

There are many prophecies in the Old Testament that have already been fulfilled...

Messiah has been born and died for His people...

The desert has been blooming again for several years...

And the eagles have returned...

And God’s childen, Israel, have been gathered from the far corners of the world...


76 posted on 01/11/2009 7:35:14 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

I am not afraid - I said I was scared. He tied it all to Russia and Iran, based on the Bible.


77 posted on 01/11/2009 7:45:45 PM PST by mathluv ( Conservative first and foremost, republican second)
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To: nina0113

I have been ready for whatever may come - provisions, etc. I keep stuff in my van ‘just in case’, and have since 9/11.


78 posted on 01/11/2009 7:47:50 PM PST by mathluv ( Conservative first and foremost, republican second)
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To: Just mythoughts
Try reading Jeremiah he has a whole lot to say about Babylon and events taking place.

I have. Jeremiah is, for the most part, about ancient Babylon. E.g.,

For thus says the Lord: 'Behold, I will make you a terror to yourself and to all your friends; and they shall fall by the sword of their enemies, and your eyes shall see it. I will give all Judah into the hand of the king of Babylon, and he shall carry them captive to Babylon and slay them with the sword. (Jer. 20:4)
Note words like “swords” and “kings” and think 586 BC. Nothing about modern Iraq.
79 posted on 01/11/2009 7:56:22 PM PST by topcat54 ("Friends don't let friends become dispensationalists.")
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To: Tennessee Nana; Lee N. Field
The blood will come up to the horses’ bridles... Thats a lot of blood...

If one did the math and tried to take that “literally” all the blood from all the men and horses in all the armies of the world would not produce that much blood.

80 posted on 01/11/2009 7:59:11 PM PST by topcat54 ("Friends don't let friends become dispensationalists.")
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