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1 posted on 11/22/2008 3:51:20 PM PST by NYer
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“The nice thing about Biden, at least he says his conscience bothers him, which is good,” But his conscience hasn't led him to change a vote. Actions speak louder than words.
26 posted on 11/22/2008 4:17:09 PM PST by kalee
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Quoting the U.S. Declaration of Independence, the bishop wrote: "The dignity of the human person begins at the moment of conception, not at birth. The dignity, as recognized by the signers of the Declaration of Independence, is bestowed by the Creator, and no one has the right to destroy innocent unborn life." http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=10434
27 posted on 11/22/2008 4:17:25 PM PST by RGPII (I wouldn't want to be bothered by an illegal president.)
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I doubt the ‘Say it ain’t so Joe’ Biden is experiencing anything close to conscience pangs. After a lifetime of leftist graft and subversion, he’s as hard as stone. Personally, I’d be suprised if he does any suffering over anything he’s done until Judgement Day.


28 posted on 11/22/2008 4:19:33 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth ($750 billion is nothing - surrender your children, wealth and gold fillings now to avoid the rush.)
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Biden experiencing troubled conscience over abortion, says Bishop Aquila

But probably not in the manner which the Bishop seems to be suggesting.

29 posted on 11/22/2008 4:21:50 PM PST by PAR35
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Joe Biden—what conscience?


31 posted on 11/22/2008 4:31:32 PM PST by Palladin (Obama on Ayers: "He's just a guy in my neighborhood." LIAR!!!)
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And if my uncle had wheels, he would be a truck.


32 posted on 11/22/2008 4:32:25 PM PST by gedeon3
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He's got quite a dilemma. If he changes to a pro-life position his political career is over. He'll never be President.

C'mon Joe. Do the right thing. Time to get in the game. Be part of the deal.

33 posted on 11/22/2008 4:36:25 PM PST by ItsForTheChildren
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Ahh poor baby.
I have an idea stop supporting the culture of death and support life.
35 posted on 11/22/2008 4:46:39 PM PST by svcw (Great selection of Christmas gift baskets: http://baskettastic.com/)
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Pray, pray, pray! Pray for Biden, and Obama! Imagine how great it would be if they had a true crisis of conscience, changed their minds on abortion, and said to the country, “you know what, abortion *is* murder and we’re going to act like it is too,” and then introduced legislation to ban it. He’d become my favorite president.

Keep praying. Abortion only became an article of left-wing faith because it is a necessity to radical feminism, which is an important SIG in left-wing politics. Without abortion, women of the same productivity as a man aren’t as hireable or as promotable in the workplace as that man because of the higher risk associated with them (women withdraw from the workplace after giving birth, sometimes for years). Radical feminists know this, and THIS alone is the reason why they are in favor of it. It’s purely about money. There’s nothing about left-wing politics in and of itself that makes it a “pro-abortion” platform, it’s simply an accident of history that it happened this way. We CAN change peoples’ minds on this, so don’t give up. Pray, pray, pray. Volunteer at a crisis pregnancy center. Spread the word. Educate yourself.


36 posted on 11/22/2008 4:58:23 PM PST by LifeComesFirst (Until the unborn are free, nobody is free)
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NOTHING Biden can do will wash the blood off his hands. Nothing.


37 posted on 11/22/2008 5:05:37 PM PST by combat_boots ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."Aldous Huxley)
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... Bishop Samuel Aquila has revealed that vice president-elect Joe Biden is struggling with his conscience over his support for abortion...

And to think I was considering going to confession for the first time in 30 years.

39 posted on 11/22/2008 5:22:21 PM PST by LiberConservative (Typical white guy)
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bttt


40 posted on 11/22/2008 6:07:02 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("It is our choices, far more than our abilities, that show us what we truly are. " -- J.K.Rowling)
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I don’t know what makes the good bishop think Biden is “struggling” with anything; he’s certainly given no indication of any struggle whatsoever in his many years in Congress, busy voting for pro-abortion legislature whenever he can.

He won’t “struggle” until there are some consequences - that is, earthly, visible, and potentially politically costly - for his continued defiance of Church teaching. Then he might be forced to give it some thought. But now? Nah.


42 posted on 11/22/2008 6:31:58 PM PST by livius
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None of us are omnisciencient and we don't know what's in his heart, but you'd think if Biden’s conscience was bothered he'd have a different voting record.
44 posted on 11/22/2008 7:03:16 PM PST by Desdemona (Tolerance of grave evil is NOT a Christian virtue (I choose virtue. Values change too often).)
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Pray for their conversion from cafeteria Catholicism to real Catholicism.


45 posted on 11/22/2008 7:51:15 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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Pray for LIFE!

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46 posted on 11/22/2008 7:52:25 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

47 posted on 11/22/2008 9:44:10 PM PST by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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At this point Biden’s words are worse than useless.

He is lying and playing a game; and in the process making a mockery of the genocide of 50+ million babies slaughtered since Roe.

He and the thousands of wicked “Catholic” politicians around the world should be publicly and formally excommunicated post haste.

They should be regularly condemned as the heretical barbarians that they are.

They should never be allowed to set foot on ANY Catholic property, especially not desecrating Churches with their unholy presence, until they repent.

They are mortal enemies of the Church, The State and of Humankind itself.

One day Christendom will have to come to the realization that the time for diplomacy ended when the first baby was ripped apart under Roe v Wade. This is a war; with more real blood and guts than all the wars in history combined.

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48 posted on 11/22/2008 11:32:08 PM PST by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at KnightsForLife.org)
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

49 posted on 11/23/2008 12:19:05 AM PST by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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The king’s heart is in the hand of the LORD, as the rivers of water: he turneth it whithersoever he will.
(Proverbs 21:1 KJV)


52 posted on 11/23/2008 10:30:58 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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