Posted on 11/16/2008 12:22:03 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
Since the election I've been asked a number of times to comment on the likelihood that Mr. Obama could be the anti-Christ. Let me begin by saying that having been elected President he's Mr. Obama now, not just Obama. As for him being the anti-Christ I've discouraged that thought because I don't believe it's time for the anti-Christ to be revealed yet. But apart from that there's no Biblical reason I can find that would absolutely disqualify him. And based on the things we know about the anti-Christ there's a fit in several important places. The anti-Christ will have to burst on the scene quickly and powerfully to accomplish so much in the little time he has, so maybe he'll need a head start. If that's the case, maybe Mr. Obama is on his way to becoming the anti-Christ. Let's find out.
We know that the anti-Christ will be a descendant of the people who made up the Roman Empire in Biblical times (Daniel 9:26), and he'll arrive on the world scene as a peace maker (Daniel 8:25). He won't be part of the world's powerful elite at the beginning of his career (Daniel 7:8) but will rise up among them to eventually surpass them and become the leader of the entire world. (Rev. 13:7-8)
He will cause deceit to prosper, and he will consider himself superior. When they feel secure, he will destroy many and take his stand against the Prince of princes. Yet he will be destroyed, but not by human power. (Daniel 8:25)
This means that he'll base his success on a lie, misrepresenting himself and his intentions, but people will want to believe him so badly that they'll disregard his inconsistencies until it's too late to stop him. Initially he'll seem successful, but just when they're saying “Peace and safety”, destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains to a pregnant woman, and they won't escape (1 Thes. 5:3).
Deja Vu All Over Again?
Some of us remember when Jimmy Carter was elected President of the US. The country was fed up with Washington and even though he had no national leadership experience, we elected him because he was an outsider who promised change. He said he would never lie to us, but after the election it turned out that he had. He had misrepresented his background and didn't have the ability he needed when it came to governing. He said he was Christian and even orchestrated a land for peace deal between Israel and Egypt, but he proved to be anti-Israel. Soon we had a crisis in finance with interest rates at 20%, an energy crisis with our first gas shortages, and an administration that didn't know how to work with Congress to fix things. The Iranians captured our embassy and held our citizens hostage. Thankfully he lasted only one term.
Mr. Obama could easily turn out to be just another Jimmy Carter, and if so America will suffer through the next four years and then he'll be gone. But if he continues to be successful in convincing people all around the world that he's on the right track even though everything seems to be falling apart, it could be a different story.
If my calculations are correct, American Christians have just voted in our last presidential elections and won't be here to see if Mr. Obama turns out to be the anti-Christ or not. But someone with a lot more experience in accurately predicting the future has some interesting insight into the next few years. His name is Gerald Celente, CEO of Trends Research Institute, and he's renowned the world over for his accuracy in predicting future world and economic events. He accurately predicted the 1987 Stock market crash, the Fall of the Soviet Union, the 1997 Asian currency collapse, the sub-prime mortgage crisis, and one year before the fact predicted what he said would become known as the Panic of 2008, saying that giants would tumble to their deaths, which is what we've just seen in the fall of several of our oldest and biggest financial firms, and with the big three auto makers teetering on the brink.
(You can check his track record for yourself at www.trendsresearch.com )
Celente is now forecasting revolution in America, food riots and tax rebellions - all within four years, cautioning that putting food on the table will be a more pressing concern than buying Christmas gifts by 2012.
According to his recent Fox News interview, called “Predicting Obama's Impact” (posted on YouTube on Nov. 10, 2008), by 2012 America will have become an undeveloped nation. There will be a revolution marked by food riots, squatter rebellions, tax revolts and job marches, and holidays will be more about obtaining food than gifts.
“We’re going to see the end of the retail Christmas….we’re going to see a fundamental shift take place….putting food on the table is going to be more important that putting gifts under the Christmas tree,” said Celente, adding that the situation would be “worse than the great depression”.
“America’s going to go through a transition the likes of which no one is prepared for,” he said, noting that people’s refusal to acknowledge that America was even in a recession highlights how big a problem denial is in being ready for the true scale of the crisis.
All this comes from a man with an international reputation for being right and whose continued success depends on it. If he's right now like he has been so often in the past, then the next four years will be worse than the Carter Administration ever was, rather than the launching platform for a coming world leader.
(By the way, please take note that this is another independent expert pointing to the year 2012 as one of cataclysmic significance in bringing about the End of the Age.)
There's a wild card that I hesitate to throw in here because I don't even want to think about it. But if it's true it could easily cause the problems that Mr. Celente is predicting. For some time now certain people, Republican and Democrat alike, have been saying that Mr. Obama isn't legally qualified to be President because he's not a natural born citizen of the US. I won't go into the details but the point is that he could make this all go away by producing a legitimate birth certificate, something he's been unwilling to do. A federal court has given him until Dec. 1, 2008 to do so, and if he does then the Electoral College vote will be certified and he'll be the next President. But lawsuits in a dozen or so states have been or are being filed to prevent the certification until Mr. Obama proves he's qualified. If the courts throw out the election who knows what could happen.
What Time Is It?
As many of you know, I've said that all of the End Times prophecies including the 2nd Coming could be fulfilled as early as 2018. I base this on the Lord's promise that the generation being born at the time of the first End Times signs would still be alive when “all these things have happened” (Matt. 24:34) Most scholars view the re-birth of Israel in 1948 as the first of the end times signs. With an average lifespan being 70 years, according to Psalm 90:10, everything will have to come to pass by 2018. If the Rapture only just precedes the 70th Week of Daniel it could come 7 years earlier, in 2011, which is 2 ½ years from now, about half way through Mr. Obama's first term, assuming the election stands.
So here's how to tell if he'll become the anti-Christ or not. If it seems like he can do no wrong, if people feel safe and it's beginning to look like there'll be peace in our time, then there's a good chance he's the one. But if Gerald Celente's predictions are coming to pass, and the world's in worse shape than ever, then he's just another Jimmy Carter, an inexperienced outsider who had no business running for president in the first place, let alone being elected.
Time will tell, but either way we can look for some difficult days ahead for the Church. Because either way we are in the final phase of post-Christian America and can expect the world around us to become more and more anti-Christian. And if the economy continues to self-destruct it will be just that much worse.
But whether Mr. Obama turns out to be the anti-Christ or not is really irrelevant to the Church. Our job in the short time we have left is to get ready to move to our new home. That means breaking our ties with the old one. Anything that can't be put to kingdom use is excess baggage to us now. We should be sending whatever treasure we have up ahead. We should stop worrying about our career, our retirement fund, our lifestyle, and all those other worldly distractions and put all our resources to work for the benefit of our next life. After all it's the real one. And one way or the other, this one is already gone.
Whether you believe in a pre-trib rapture or not you know my advice is sound. After all I'm not just making this up. Everything I 've been saying is straight from the Lord's own mouth. He's the one who said to quit storing up treasure on Earth where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal. He's the one who said to store up treasure in Heaven instead. (Matt. 6:19-20) And He's the one who said not to worry about our lives here but seek first His Kingdom and His righteousness and he'll provide all our needs. (Matt. 6:31-34) So whether you think we're leaving here soon or not, it's time to pay attention to what He's been telling us. No matter how much time you think we have, you can almost hear the footsteps of the Messiah. 11-15-08
http://racialreality.110mb.com/subraces.html
CAUCASOID SUBRACES
The Caucasian race is native to Europe, West Asia and North Africa, but there exists a good deal of often regional variation among its members, resulting from both environmental adaptation and genetic admixture.
East African: In the deserts and highlands of Ethiopia, Eritrea, and the Somalilands is found a concentration of several related Mediterranean types, mixed in varying degrees with negroes. To the west these partial whites border on Sudanese negroes; to the southwest the partially Hamitic tribes of Kenya and Uganda form art extension of the peripheral Mediterranean racial area. To the north, the Beja-Bisharin group of Hamitic-speaking nomads connect the East African Hamitic-speaking peoples with their wholly white Egyptian and Berber relatives of North Africa.
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And this is ASSUMING that Obama Sr is his natural father.
I’d agree but the incident we are referring to was written 2000 years ago saying it wouldn’t be faked. Somehow I imagine it like JFK walking away from the open limo in Dallas.
Yes, you are right, he will be a Jew turned counterfeit Christian, just as Jesus was a Jew.
Every father worries about his children and their future. Every man gets cold feet at some point about marriage. Your on track . . . : )
You know that God is in control and that he is always good. Don’t be afraid and follow God’s will in your life.
Certainly Satan mimics God...but at what point does the exact mimicry cease. Is the AC born of a virgin, is the virgin a Jewess, is she a direct descendant of David?
Without some scriptural reference or some logical/formulaic extraction thereof...your suggestion is nothing but suggestion.
This matter (to believers) is too darned important to be compounded by hearsay and feelings.
I do have some sources but did not think about it overmuch. Thanks for calling me on it. I read that some people think because of certain prophecies in the OT that he will come from the tribe of Dan, others Judah.
I’ll look up what I read a few months ago on it for you. I think for someone to claim he is the real Jesus, and be worshipped as such by everyone on the face of the earth, that it’s begging the question that he would be of Jewish lineage.
Think about it, he could not pass himself off as “Jesus” in the Second Coming unless he was Jewish in lineage.
http://stewartsynopsis.com/color_of_jesus.htm
Click the link and maybe I will have to consider Obama again in the running for AntiChrist. In that case, when he is revealed please disregard all my posts to the contrary.
He might not pass himself off as another Jesus...just as another Messiah (just as Obama is passing himself off as the secular messiah...the savior of non-believers).
Please keep me posted on your findings and add me to your ping lists if any.
I hope and pray that we believers may play a useful role in this drama (if indeed this drama has arrived).
God Bless! :-)
Same back to you in His name!
(It is scary times, huh?) Ping me too.
Will do!!!
Hah!!
Yet another "date suggester" that can't read his Bible. A generation in the Bible is nowhere spoken of in terms of 70 years.
These futurists have missed the mark again and again. This new kid on the block thinks he has the magic key that unlocks prophecy. He does not. He is a fraud.
The Bible makes it clear that the "generation" spoken of by Jesus was the 1st century contemporaries who witnessed the sack of Jerusalem and destruction of the temple in AD70. It was really one generation (40 years, not 70) from the time of Jesus’ word to the actual events.
This fellow is soon to join the ranks of Hal Lindsey, Chuck Smith, Edger Whisenant, Harold Camping, and a host of other failed futurist date suggesters.
Most scholars view the re-birth of Israel in 1948 as the first of the end times signs.
Most scholars, in fact, do not view modern Israel with any special regard to Bible prophecy, and the handful that do are just plain wrong.
Thanks.
Will check it out.
Israel nukes some country in self-defense.
World outrage (including the US)
UN resolutions against Israel passed
Russian / Arab / Persian armies and air forces lined up to invade and 'de-nuclearize'.
Miraculous saving of Israel from unknown power (but we know who He is).
Religious revival in Israel + Third Temple rebuilt
THAT's when you start worrying about who the AC is because he'll be up next.
Obamao is tooooooo overtly flawed to be the AC
He is clearly a forerunner helping clear some cobwebs out of the way and testing the waters on how much they can get away with how fast.
bmflr
MARANATHA!
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I did NOT vote for Jimmy Carter.
Highlighting a quote from the second half of the article,
’ ... by 2012 America will have become an undeveloped nation. There will be a revolution marked by food riots, squatter rebellions, tax revolts and job marches, and holidays will be more about obtaining food than gifts.
“We’re going to see the end of the retail Christmas….we’re going to see a fundamental shift take place….putting food on the table is going to be more important that putting gifts under the Christmas tree,” said Celente, adding that the situation would be “worse than the great depression”.
“America’s going to go through a transition the likes of which no one is prepared for,” he said, noting that people’s refusal to acknowledge that America was even in a recession highlights how big a problem denial is in being ready for the true scale of the crisis.
All this comes from a man with an international reputation for being right ... ‘
And another highlight,
‘But whether Mr. Obama turns out to be the anti-Christ or not is really irrelevant to the Church. Our job in the short time we have left is to get ready to move to our new home. That means breaking our ties with the old one. Anything that can’t be put to kingdom use is excess baggage to us now. We should be sending whatever treasure we have up ahead. We should stop worrying about our career, our retirement fund, our lifestyle, and all those other worldly distractions and put all our resources to work for the benefit of our next life. After all it’s the real one. And one way or the other, this one is already gone.’
How then, do you propose, we put food on the table under the new administration? Laying all the responsibility for "holidays will be more about obtaining food than gifts" on government rather than the individual is nonsense.
This Obama/anti-Christ silliness is way over the deep end.
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