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Romans 13:1-3 (Question on Authority)
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Posted on 11/05/2008 1:05:36 PM PST by Rightly Biased

1Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.

2Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.

3For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you.


TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: bloodoftyrants; constitution; donttreadonme; freedom; joe; joetheplumber; john; johngalt; liberty; respecttheflag; romans13; tyrants; usconstitution
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Ok so here is my question, and I know my fellow Freepers can help me. If I hang my American flag upside down in my front yard as a signal of the distress I consider my country to be in right now am I being disobediant to God?
1 posted on 11/05/2008 1:05:37 PM PST by Rightly Biased
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To: Rightly Biased

Half-mast or a black ribbon around the flag would be more appropriate.


2 posted on 11/05/2008 1:06:58 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (A Jew voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

OK I understand that but the question still lies out there.


3 posted on 11/05/2008 1:08:25 PM PST by Rightly Biased (Courage is not the lack of fear it is acting in spite of it<><)
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To: Rightly Biased

This verse above is always misconstrued. The apostles disobeyed the authroties when they were told not to preach.


4 posted on 11/05/2008 1:08:46 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: Rightly Biased

Hanging the American flag upside is intended to be a true sign of distress... the flag should never be disgraced is such a manner for a political statement.


5 posted on 11/05/2008 1:09:14 PM PST by MeanGreen2008
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To: Rightly Biased

Is doing so an exercise of your free speech rights under the first amendment?


6 posted on 11/05/2008 1:09:39 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Rightly Biased
I don't submit to the Obomination. God is in control but He expects us to do what is RIGHT and ADVOCATE what is right. If we weren't supposed to DO what is RIGHT, we wouldn't have any martyrs.

I submit to what I know is right - no abortions, no illegal drugs, no to same sex marriages, no to homosexuality, no to sex taught to kids in kindergarten etc.. These VIOLATE what the Bible teaches. Christians submit to God, not evil.

7 posted on 11/05/2008 1:09:58 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: WKB; P-Marlowe

I would love to hear your thoughts on this?


8 posted on 11/05/2008 1:10:23 PM PST by Rightly Biased (Courage is not the lack of fear it is acting in spite of it<><)
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To: Rightly Biased

Under our American constitutional system, as memorialized in our founding document, our ultimate “governing authority” is the unalienable rights we have from the Creator.

If a president or Congress attempts to usurp those rights, it is THEY who are being disobedient to the governing authority, not the people.


9 posted on 11/05/2008 1:10:48 PM PST by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: MeanGreen2008

I believe our Country to be in distress we are at great danger of losing it I believe.

but I know I also am bound by a Higher Authority God Almighty Himself.

So am I disobediant to Him is the question?


10 posted on 11/05/2008 1:12:24 PM PST by Rightly Biased (Courage is not the lack of fear it is acting in spite of it<><)
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To: Rightly Biased

IMO, if it’s not illegal, then no. However, out of love for our country, I wouldn’t as it may be considered as disgracing the flag by some. We can show our disapproval by other legal means.


11 posted on 11/05/2008 1:12:36 PM PST by OB1kNOb (Obama may be President, but Jesus Christ is still the King, and even Obama's knee will bow to him.)
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To: Rightly Biased
I'll answer your question with a question. Were the French resistance fighters in World War II being disobediant to God?


12 posted on 11/05/2008 1:12:41 PM PST by Cinnamontea
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To: AmericaUnited

So how would you interpet this passage?


13 posted on 11/05/2008 1:14:08 PM PST by Rightly Biased (Courage is not the lack of fear it is acting in spite of it<><)
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To: Rightly Biased

Proverbs has something to say about the likes of Obama.

“My son, fear the LORD and the king; Do not associate with those given to CHANGE; For their calamity will rise suddenly, And who knows the ruin those two can bring?” – Proverbs 24:21-22


14 posted on 11/05/2008 1:14:24 PM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: Cinnamontea

Is hanging the flag upside down resistance or distress?


15 posted on 11/05/2008 1:15:19 PM PST by Rightly Biased (Courage is not the lack of fear it is acting in spite of it<><)
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To: Rightly Biased

As the various oaths of office make clear, the “governing authority” in the US is the Constitution of the United States, not the current occupant of the Oval Office.


16 posted on 11/05/2008 1:15:56 PM PST by PapaBear3625 ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell)
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To: Rightly Biased

Such a display is improper for the reason given. However, the authority God has established here in America is the Bill of Rights and the US Constitution. Those who pervert their governance for their own purpose are the ones rebelling against authority. I see no reason why we should submit to their rebellion.


17 posted on 11/05/2008 1:18:05 PM PST by bcsco (Liberals don't understand, it's impossible to pick up a turd-like Obama-by the clean end...)
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To: Rightly Biased; Charles Henrickson

Let my buddy, Charles, help you out!

(Lead with your CV, Chas!)


18 posted on 11/05/2008 1:18:16 PM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: Cinnamontea

Better yet, were the Signers of the Declaration of Independence being disobedient to God?

There was a serious debate that that was the case.


19 posted on 11/05/2008 1:18:41 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (A Jew voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders.)
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To: Rightly Biased

Interpret it in conjunction with:

6 I am the Lord your God,

7 you shall have no other gods before me.

8 You shall not make for yourself an idol


20 posted on 11/05/2008 1:20:11 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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