Posted on 10/21/2008 6:22:38 AM PDT by Ottofire
And, manage to somehow square up that hatred with their faith in God and Christianity.
Infallibility merely guarantees that the pope (or an ecumenical council ratified by him) will not speak or define in error. It is entirely possible that revelation defined through this means will be given in stages. This is because the charism is brought to bear on specific questions or controversies, as they come up. As an illustration, even our understanding of the nature of Christ was given in this way, spread out in the six earliest Ecumenical Councils, from Nicaea to Third Constantinople. If that is "clarification," then, yes, popes and ECs can "clarify" in this way.
Never! Better to chug seawater after a week without liquids than to do that. Nimmer! Jamais! Nunca!
I see you caught the deficiencies in this regard also. It's especially cheeky to complain about the alleged deification of Mary when one is not even a Christian himself, at least as measured by the standard of believing in the Trinity.
I’ve a serious question. I’ve always been confused about this “praying to Mary”...
My understanding is that the only entities capable of hearing prayers are the Divine (the “members” of the Trinity). Mary was a human, a specially chosen human, but not “divine” in the least. How is it that you think she can hear your prayers?
Do you pray to any of your ancestors and expect them to hear you?
Read Revelation 5 carefully.
***Matthew 6:7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words.
Explanation: The pagans often repeated the same phrases over and over again. Pray your own prayer. Not one written by someone else.***
Not one written by someone ELSE? Try this one:
The Our Father was taught to us by JESUS. Luke 11.1
Jesus also said the Matthew 6:7 quote. How many times has a priest told you to say x number of “Our Fathers” and/or x number of Hail Mary’s as penitence? I would say that qualifies as babbling. And how many times have you said the Lord’s prayer without thinking of the meanings of the words? I have, before I knew better. I would say that also qualifies as babbling.
What's despicable about a crucifix with an image of Mary holding the baby Jesus on the back side of it?
Don't hold your breath waiting to get a straight answer to that question. My expectation is to get a parsing of words, or some declaration about not demonstrating the chesed because the question was asked. But that's just based on experience and may not be what happens; who knows.
Its called blasphemy.
Bingo! Now you're getting it! It's all from God. You've finally taken a step toward understanding the Catholic faith.
Explain.
But...apparently not. In at least one person's case.
This ought to be good.
See post 195.
I have come to understand that as to Mary, and to the crucifix, Catholics really don’t “get it.”
The crucifix is at its heart, a lie. Christ dead and pierced on the cross is not the Gospel message. Had he not risen, his death would have been in vain; the fact that he was and is victorious over death is what is important.
Placing Mary on that cross is another iconic lie; she did not die for us, nor did an infant. The words of the Lord made plain that who his mother was is irrelevant to our salvation, and to his victory. To try to include Mary on the cross is to blurr the line between a godly, obedient woman and Semiramis (Ishtar, Ishi, Isis, Astarte), and soil the Lord’s wonderful gift to his Father’s elect.
Blasphemy.
The crucifix is at its heart, a lie. Christ dead and pierced on the cross is not the Gospel message. Had he not risen, his death would have been in vain; the fact that he was and is victorious over death is what is important.
"But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews indeed a stumblingblock, and unto the Gentiles foolishness" - 1 Cor. 1: 23.
Like I said, you just don’t get it. You cannot look at it objectively, and see the Biblical picture.
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