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Mary Worship Still Alive in Catholicism
Alpha and Omega Ministries ^ | 10/21/2008 | Tur8infan

Posted on 10/21/2008 6:22:38 AM PDT by Ottofire


Mary Worship Still Alive in Catholicism

10/21/2008 - Tur8infan Benedict XVI is reported (link to report) as recently praying to Mary: "We implore you to have pity today on the nations that have gone astray, on all Europe, on the whole world, that they might repent and return to your heart," the text of the prayer reads.

This is a prayer that is openly idolatrous. Mankind needs to turn, not to the heart of Mary, but to the Son of Mary, Jesus Christ the Righteous. The true and proper object of worship is God alone.

Matthew 4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

Benedict XVI is also reported as praying to her, "If you will not help us because we are ungrateful and unworthy children of your protection, we will not know to whom to turn."

This prayer demonstrates the underlying blindness of Catholicism. There is a place to which not only all of Europe in general, but Mr. Ratzinger in particular ought to turn for help, and whose protection should be sought: the throne of the Most High God, by the intercession of the Son of God, Jesus Christ with the aid of the Holy Spirit.

But though Jesus is the Son of Mary, and though Mary is greatly blessed to be the Mother of our Saviour, yet Jesus himself said:

Matthew 12:48-50
48But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren? 49And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! 50For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

And again:

Mary 3:33-35
33 And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren? 34And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! 35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.

It is almost as though Jesus was concerned lest some might foolishly fall into the trap of worshiping his blood relatives! Indeed, here is Jesus' own condemnation of the error of adoration and veneration of Jesus' mother. They do not hold a special place in the kingdom of God, but are like all those who do the will of God. Yet Catholicism, as can be seen from this event, continues to elevate Mary improperly to the status of, in effect, a goddess to whom prayers are offered.

Benedict XVI did not even omit to provide a sacrifice to this de facto goddess. It is reported that, "In a gesture of filial love, the Pope then offered the Madonna a golden rose." One is reminded immediately of the similar offerings presented by the Philistines to the Ark of the Covenant in the Old Testament, particularly given Catholicism's claim (or at least the claim of her apologists) that Mary is the "ark of the New Covenant."

Finally, we should note that Benedict XVI is reported not to have left Jesus entirely out: "...The secret of Pompeii is the rosary: "This prayer leads us through Mary to Jesus." But, in fact, the Rosary leads men away from Jesus, as can be seen in the idolatry illustrated in the prayers above. Benedict XVI is reported to have claimed, "The rosary is a spiritual weapon in the struggle against evil, against all violence, for peace in hearts, in families, in society and in the world."

But, in fact, sadly it is an extra-Scriptural innovation: unknown to the apostles and unpracticed for centuries and centuries following Christ's ascension. The Early Church Fathers didn't say the Rosary, and neither should you: it is a tradition of men, not of God.

-TurretinFan



TOPICS: Catholic; Theology
KEYWORDS: 4thcommandment; agendadrivenfreeper; bravosierra; callaspadeaspade; catholicbashing; idolatry; ignoranceisbliss; mary; moacb; ottolovsejesus
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Comment #141 Removed by Moderator

To: Blood of Tyrants

More modern, sure. Not more accurate.

When Luther changed the wording of Romans 3:28, that was more modern too.


142 posted on 10/21/2008 10:45:00 AM PDT by Petronski (Please pray for the success of McCain and Palin. Every day, whenever you pray.)
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To: Petronski

Why is such hatred displayed for something so pure and innocent by self-proclaimed Christians? It seems that there are a few here with beams in their eyes searching for a non-existent speck in their brothers’.

Who left the gates at Stormfront open? Did a Klan meeting just let out or something?


143 posted on 10/21/2008 10:46:21 AM PDT by Torpedo Eight
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To: coon2000

Right now, no. I just moved last weekend, but yes, I will put up photos. And yes, I do worry that my love for my wife and children might be greater than my love for my God. That is the difference between you and me. I will admit to my worry about graven images and placing things between me and God. You will not even entertain the thought that I MIGHT be right and that Mary has become equal to God in many Catholics’ eyes.


144 posted on 10/21/2008 10:46:28 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat. And so is Obama.)
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To: XeniaSt
The creator of the universe can only be found in His Word.

What an amazing limitation to place on God!

He is omnipresent, and makes Himself present to the whole world through the power of the Holy Spirit, the Third Person of the Holy Trinity.

145 posted on 10/21/2008 10:46:59 AM PDT by Petronski (Please pray for the success of McCain and Palin. Every day, whenever you pray.)
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To: Torpedo Eight

I am constantly amazed by this phenomenon. Self-deprivation of the Holy Sacraments certainly creates a big dangerous hole in the soul of some folks.


146 posted on 10/21/2008 10:48:53 AM PDT by Petronski (Please pray for the success of McCain and Palin. Every day, whenever you pray.)
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To: Petronski

There is no absolute translation of the bible. Many, many of the Hebrew/Aramaic and Greek words have no direct translation to English therefore, unless you can read Hebrew/Aramaic and Greek you must rely on the translation of others. Many more translations use the word “like” in that verse than those who do not.


147 posted on 10/21/2008 10:50:18 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat. And so is Obama.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
However, I disagree with praying to dead people to ask them to intercede.

Which people in heaven are "dead"?

Are you sure you read the Bible?

148 posted on 10/21/2008 10:50:44 AM PDT by Campion
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To: Petronski

Luther was editing the Bible to fit his agenda. In the end, the power he attained through his misguided followers corrupted him to the point of absolute madness.


149 posted on 10/21/2008 10:51:34 AM PDT by coon2000
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“If you would read, you would find that I got the info from CATHOLICS. My friend was most definitely Catholic and would not lie to me.”

I have no idea who you are. Why on earth would I give you two cents worth of credence.


150 posted on 10/21/2008 10:52:04 AM PDT by OpusatFR (Retiring to my swamp for the next decade on November 5, 2008/ Opus in works)
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To: Petronski

Okay, but she was a mere mortal like everyone else and her words mean no more nor any less than the words of any other human who ever lived. She will be judged by the exact same standard as you and I and in the eyes of God the Father, she is equal.


151 posted on 10/21/2008 10:52:31 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat. And so is Obama.)
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To: Quix
Lots of prayers worded similarly have been promulgated over the centuries.

It's not the evidence, it's the seriousness of the charge? Dan Rather, is that you?

152 posted on 10/21/2008 10:52:59 AM PDT by Campion
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To: Blood of Tyrants
There is no absolute translation of the bible.

That's a loophole I could drive a tent-revival flatbed semi through.

Many more translations use the word “like” in that verse than those who do not.

Then many more translations get it wrong than get it right.

153 posted on 10/21/2008 10:53:39 AM PDT by Petronski (Please pray for the success of McCain and Palin. Every day, whenever you pray.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

God created her without sin, there is nothing to judge.


154 posted on 10/21/2008 10:55:15 AM PDT by Petronski (Please pray for the success of McCain and Palin. Every day, whenever you pray.)
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To: Scythian

Where is that despicable thing located?


155 posted on 10/21/2008 11:01:31 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obama isn't just an empty suit, he's a Suit-Bomb trying to sneak into the White House.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I hardly think she was a mere mortal like everyone else.

Luke 1:26-31
26 10 In the sixth month, the angel Gabriel was sent from God to a town of Galilee called Nazareth,
27 to a virgin betrothed to a man named Joseph, of the house of David, and the virgin's name was Mary.
28 And coming to her, he said, "Hail, favored one! The Lord is with you."
29 But she was greatly troubled at what was said and pondered what sort of greeting this might be.
30 Then the angel said to her, "Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God.
31 Behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall name him Jesus.

156 posted on 10/21/2008 11:03:09 AM PDT by ladtx ( "Never miss a good chance to shut up." - - Will Rogers)
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To: Petronski

Romans 3:23 For ALL have sinned and fall short the glory of God.

Mary did not live a sinless life; only Jesus did that and because of that, he alone was able to become the perfect sacrifice to atone for all of our sins. Mary was merely human, just like you and me. She had human fallibilities and shortcomings. Her mortal body died because of HER sins and has not been resurrected yet. Jesus’ mortal body died because of OUR sins and HAS been resurrected.


157 posted on 10/21/2008 11:04:00 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat. And so is Obama.)
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To: Petronski
XS>The creator of the universe can only be found in His Word.

What an amazing limitation to place on God!

He is omnipresent, and makes Himself present to the whole world through the power of the Holy Spirit, the Third Person of the Holy Trinity.

145 posted on October 21, 2008 11:46:59 AM MDT by Petronski

Let me put a finer point on it for you.

The creator of the universe and salvation can not be found
in the Pagan traditions of man as found in the Roman church
founded at Nicea by Constantine the Roman Pontiff,
who called it into being, managed it and promulgated it's findings.

Yah'shua told us to look in His Word and
be guided by His Spirit for understanding.

Yah'shua condemned the traditions of man.

He particularly excoriated those traditions
of man which impugned the Word of G-d.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
158 posted on 10/21/2008 11:05:16 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Your interpretation of Scripture does not impress me.

I’m going to stick with the Church founded by Christ circa AD 32.


159 posted on 10/21/2008 11:05:25 AM PDT by Petronski (Please pray for the success of McCain and Palin. Every day, whenever you pray.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

In your mind you are right, and for that I feel sorry for you.


160 posted on 10/21/2008 11:05:46 AM PDT by coon2000
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