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A good man is hard to find at church
The Baptist Standard ^ | August 14, 2008 | Lee Ann Marcel

Posted on 08/15/2008 11:50:44 AM PDT by Alex Murphy

DALLAS (ABP)—Men are disappearing from the church.

According to the Barna Research Group, there are 11 million to 13 million more American women who are born again than there are born-again men. While nine out of 10 senior pastors are men, a majority of regular church attenders are women.

Not only are women the majority of born-again American Christians, the Barna Group reports, “Women are the backbone of the Christian congregations in America.”

Perhaps indicative of women’s sense of spirituality, 41 percent of women said they have set specific spiritual goals they hope to accomplish in the coming year or two. Only 29 percent of men have identified such spiritual goals.

“Women, more often than not, take the lead role in the spiritual life of the family,” said George Barna, president of the research group. “Women typically emerge as the primary—or only—spiritual mentor and role model for family members. And that puts a tremendous burden on wives and mothers.”

Pam Durso, associate executive director of the Baptist History & Heritage Society, agrees women play a major role in families as spiritual mentors. “One aspect of that is that mothers generally are the ones who do the scheduling of events and the planning of activities, including church attendance and church-related programs.”

But that’s nothing new, Durso argues. Historically, women have dominated the membership of Baptist churches.

“Here is something to think about: Is 61 percent for female participation really a change for Baptists? Over the years, many Baptist churches have had a majority of female members,” Durso said.

At First Baptist Church of America, in Providence, R.I.—the premier Baptist congregation in the New World—59 percent of the members from 1730-1777 were women, Durso noted. From 1779-1799, that percentage dropped by only 1 percent to 58 percent.

“So, perhaps the question is not where have all the men gone, but is instead where have men been all these years?” Durso said.

David Murrow, author of Why Men Hate Going to Church, believes the way churches market themselves affects the demographics of their memberships. According to Murrow’s Church for Men website, a typical congregation draws an adult crowd that’s 61 percent female and 39 percent male.

“It’s widely believed, and rarely spoken of, that men feel church is something for women, children and grandparents,” Murrow said. “If a man becomes involved (in a church), then he is less manly.”

Murrow believes this trend began during the Industrial Revolution in the 1840s. Harsh economic conditions drove men to seek jobs in mines, mills and factories. While men worked, families were left behind for longer periods of time. The only people to be found in congregations were women, children and older men. Women began to add socials like teas, quilting circles and potluck dinners.

“The able-bodied man all but disappeared from the church,” Murrow said.

Murrow mentions on his website, www.churchformen.com, that many who have grown up in the church don’t recognize the “feminine spirituality.” But to the masculine mind, it’s obvious as the steps in front of the door.

“He may feel like Tom Sawyer in Aunt Polly’s parlor. He must watch his language, mind his manners and be extra polite. It’s hard for a man to be real in church because he must squeeze himself into this feminine religious mold,” Murrow writes on the site.

The tendency of targeting women has grown with the increased popularity of contemporary worship, Murrow added.

Hymns used to be tuned into the masculine heart by alluding to God as a mighty fortress, Murrow noted. Songs such as “Onward Christian Soldiers” spurred men in their faith.

“But now worship sounds like a Top-40 love song,” Murrow said. “They are wonderful and biblical, but it’s not the sentiment that will rally a bunch of men.”

Romantic music is a response to the market of single women, Murrow added. “They provide a Jesus image who wants to steal away with them … which doesn’t appeal to men.”

“Are we going to allow the market to drive the church, or the Bible to drive the church?”

Murrow suggests there’s nothing wrong with the gospel—just the way Christians present it. “We just need to change the culture container that we are delivering it in and should be willing to follow the example of churches who succeed in reaching men,” he said.

A leading example is Christ Church of the Valley in Phoenix, Ariz. The church markets to men through the events promoted, down to the colors and design of the building. The church even changes the range of the worship songs so men can feel comfortable singing.

“Everything we do when it comes to marketing is geared toward men in the 25-45 range … an underserved demographic in the church market today,” said Michael Gray, communications coordinator of Christ Church of the Valley.

The church offers activities like motorcycle and sport groups. One of the groups is called The Edge. There men can rappel down cliffs, jump out of airplanes and bungee jump off bridges. The purpose is to cause men to take a step of faith and stretch their comfort zones. The ministry is a spiritually challenging group, not just physically challenging. While the group focuses on adventurous activities, their ultimate goal is to lead people into an adventure with Jesus Christ.

“The Edge helps get men plugged into the church and hanging out with other men, outside a church setting,” Gray said. “It shows that we are men’s men, and we don’t just sit in shirt and tie on Sundays with our leather-bound Bible”

There is more than one way to present the gospel in a way that contemporary men will respond to, Murrow said. But it begins with the congregation understanding it must make an intentional effort to reach out to men.

“People have to realize it’s a problem. They need to wake up and look (at) how magnetic Jesus was to men. We have a 70-to-80 percent failure to boys. I don’t think that’s (God’s) will.”


TOPICS: Mainline Protestant; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: bornagain; church; dating; males; marriage; unchurched
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1 posted on 08/15/2008 11:50:44 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

I’ll give another reason why there are more women then men in church: If the man is a Christian, but the woman is not, you are likely to see both in church. If the woman is a Christian but the man is not, you are likely to see only the woman.

I learned this first hand - the hard way.

And technically, the man is the pastor of the woman, while the pastor of the church is the pastor of the man. A woman who is married to a non-believer has no pastor in the home.


2 posted on 08/15/2008 11:55:42 AM PDT by RobRoy (This is comical)
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To: Alex Murphy

Now we know where to find the women for those unmarried young Chinese men that the world fears will willingly go to war out of frustration.


3 posted on 08/15/2008 11:55:55 AM PDT by Teacher317 (Thank you Dith Pran for showing us what Communism brings)
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To: Alex Murphy
That is a sad comintary on Baptisit churches. It really deppends on where you go, our church is about 50/50, with lots and lots of late teens and early 20s. I love the bumpers ticker Real men love Jesus.
4 posted on 08/15/2008 11:57:24 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: Alex Murphy

The fact that women live longer than men is entirely unrelated to these numbers of course...


5 posted on 08/15/2008 11:57:36 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Alex Murphy
"Perhaps indicative of women’s sense of spirituality, 41 percent of women said they have set specific spiritual goals they hope to accomplish in the coming year or two. Only 29 percent of men have identified such spiritual goals. "

Spiritual Goals???? Huh??

The only "Spiritual Goal" I have a Christian is to keep my relationship/experience with Christ up-to-date.
6 posted on 08/15/2008 12:01:36 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
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To: RobRoy

When I look around at the men, during ditty-singing, it is a wonder ANY man sets foot in a church, ever. (Don’t get me started on the music, that’s another issue. But this has to be part of the problem.)They are unhappy, not interested in singing and clapping and cheering, for the most part — remind me of a guy invited to a baby shower.


8 posted on 08/15/2008 12:11:05 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: bboop
...remind me of a guy invited to a baby shower

GREAT analogy!

9 posted on 08/15/2008 12:12:04 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy
I rarely have time to post anymore, but the following caught my eye...

The church markets to men through the events promoted, down to the colors and design of the building. The church even changes the range of the worship songs so men can feel comfortable singing. “Everything we do when it comes to marketing is geared toward men in the 25-45 range … an underserved demographic in the church market today,” said Michael Gray, communications coordinator of Christ Church of the Valley. The church offers activities like motorcycle and sport groups. One of the groups is called The Edge. There men can rappel down cliffs, jump out of airplanes and bungee jump off bridges. The purpose is to cause men to take a step of faith and stretch their comfort zones. The ministry is a spiritually challenging group, not just physically challenging.

Isn't anyone else appalled by these ideas and easy use of the terms "marketing" and "promotion" when referring to church attendance? It reminds me of that distinctly liberal tactic of "Framing the Message" in order to bring more bodies in. You only need to "frame" the message if the message doesn't stand on it's own merit.

10 posted on 08/15/2008 12:15:08 PM PDT by BMiles2112
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To: bboop

Giving praise to the Creator should be gender neutral.


11 posted on 08/15/2008 12:17:38 PM PDT by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: Alex Murphy
Usually, when there are more women than men, it attracts men!
12 posted on 08/15/2008 12:27:17 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: BMiles2112
Why would a man go where God isn't. I mean if I want to be entertained I have football, beer, video games, fishing, in other words alot more things to do than sit around a church that is run by a pastor who is run by his wife. These ridiculous churches are not "geared toward men" but geared toward women who hope this crap will seduce their husbands into going.

I can talk to God daily while working, why join a bunch of unbelievers at a social gathering. Remember that Eve was deceived of the Devil but Adam just listened to his wife.

13 posted on 08/15/2008 12:32:40 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: bboop

Yeah, I just finished reading a book by my best friend. He was my pastor until he moved to Kentucky. We go there about three times a year and have lots of conversations about what church should be.

The book is “and no religion too - thoughts on the spectator church”

It realy is an eye opening perspective on the church and how it relates to the first century church. It also cracked me up. Ed’s quite a story teller...

http://www.edwardgoblebooks.com/


14 posted on 08/15/2008 12:33:30 PM PDT by RobRoy (This is comical)
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To: BMiles2112

I am not appalled at all. If you want men to come to church honor them and plan things that appeal to them. My church is about 50/50 and we have many programs for men.


15 posted on 08/15/2008 12:34:45 PM PDT by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: normy
I can talk to God daily while working, why join a bunch of unbelievers at a social gathering.

You ain't gonna find that a fundamentalist church. In fact, some of them are man-centered to the point of being unbiblical. (Yes, I know, those are few.) Anyway, some sort of fundamentalist church (i.e. an independent Baptist church or a Southern Baptist church) might suit you.

16 posted on 08/15/2008 12:36:35 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Hogwash! While there may be a numerical difference in adult women vs men at church, it’s certainly no meat market. I’m a man in my 50’s, fit, healthy and dress well. I’ve attended 5 different Protestant churches over the past 4 months as I searched for one whose values and approach to spirituality matched mine.

Most of the unaccompanied women in these churches were over 70 or over 250 lbs.


17 posted on 08/15/2008 12:39:39 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (Warner Brothers SUX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: normy
Wow!! So I have to ask why aren't you going to church to show them how they have went astray? Believers are the church and we are to worship corporately.
18 posted on 08/15/2008 12:40:18 PM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Alex Murphy
I've had a sense of renewing my faith the last few years and visited quite a few churches. Although I've focused on message and culture (too many liberal churches out there), I've seen more men than women.

As a single, I'd love to meet a true Christian conservative woman - too many liberal women masquerading as conservatives.

19 posted on 08/15/2008 12:40:28 PM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: RobRoy

It has been shown that young men who go to church with their fathers will more likely stay within the church than those young men who only attend with their mothers. Fathers lead by example, always. Their sons always watch them and learn from them.


20 posted on 08/15/2008 12:42:23 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife
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