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1 posted on 08/15/2008 11:50:44 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

I’ll give another reason why there are more women then men in church: If the man is a Christian, but the woman is not, you are likely to see both in church. If the woman is a Christian but the man is not, you are likely to see only the woman.

I learned this first hand - the hard way.

And technically, the man is the pastor of the woman, while the pastor of the church is the pastor of the man. A woman who is married to a non-believer has no pastor in the home.


2 posted on 08/15/2008 11:55:42 AM PDT by RobRoy (This is comical)
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To: Alex Murphy

Now we know where to find the women for those unmarried young Chinese men that the world fears will willingly go to war out of frustration.


3 posted on 08/15/2008 11:55:55 AM PDT by Teacher317 (Thank you Dith Pran for showing us what Communism brings)
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To: Alex Murphy
That is a sad comintary on Baptisit churches. It really deppends on where you go, our church is about 50/50, with lots and lots of late teens and early 20s. I love the bumpers ticker Real men love Jesus.
4 posted on 08/15/2008 11:57:24 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: Alex Murphy

The fact that women live longer than men is entirely unrelated to these numbers of course...


5 posted on 08/15/2008 11:57:36 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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"Perhaps indicative of women’s sense of spirituality, 41 percent of women said they have set specific spiritual goals they hope to accomplish in the coming year or two. Only 29 percent of men have identified such spiritual goals. "

Spiritual Goals???? Huh??

The only "Spiritual Goal" I have a Christian is to keep my relationship/experience with Christ up-to-date.
6 posted on 08/15/2008 12:01:36 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
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I rarely have time to post anymore, but the following caught my eye...

The church markets to men through the events promoted, down to the colors and design of the building. The church even changes the range of the worship songs so men can feel comfortable singing. “Everything we do when it comes to marketing is geared toward men in the 25-45 range … an underserved demographic in the church market today,” said Michael Gray, communications coordinator of Christ Church of the Valley. The church offers activities like motorcycle and sport groups. One of the groups is called The Edge. There men can rappel down cliffs, jump out of airplanes and bungee jump off bridges. The purpose is to cause men to take a step of faith and stretch their comfort zones. The ministry is a spiritually challenging group, not just physically challenging.

Isn't anyone else appalled by these ideas and easy use of the terms "marketing" and "promotion" when referring to church attendance? It reminds me of that distinctly liberal tactic of "Framing the Message" in order to bring more bodies in. You only need to "frame" the message if the message doesn't stand on it's own merit.

10 posted on 08/15/2008 12:15:08 PM PDT by BMiles2112
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Usually, when there are more women than men, it attracts men!
12 posted on 08/15/2008 12:27:17 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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Hogwash! While there may be a numerical difference in adult women vs men at church, it’s certainly no meat market. I’m a man in my 50’s, fit, healthy and dress well. I’ve attended 5 different Protestant churches over the past 4 months as I searched for one whose values and approach to spirituality matched mine.

Most of the unaccompanied women in these churches were over 70 or over 250 lbs.


17 posted on 08/15/2008 12:39:39 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (Warner Brothers SUX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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I've had a sense of renewing my faith the last few years and visited quite a few churches. Although I've focused on message and culture (too many liberal churches out there), I've seen more men than women.

As a single, I'd love to meet a true Christian conservative woman - too many liberal women masquerading as conservatives.

19 posted on 08/15/2008 12:40:28 PM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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Hymns used to be tuned into the masculine heart by alluding to God as a mighty fortress

There are some great hymn in this tradition, including "Hold the Fort" (inspired by the Battle of Allatoona in 1864), "The Fight is On, Oh Christian Soldier," and "The Conflict of the Ages" which are rarely, if ever heard today.

33 posted on 08/15/2008 1:31:24 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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“But now worship sounds like a Top-40 love song,” Murrow said.

Quote of the day award.

40 posted on 08/15/2008 5:31:45 PM PDT by PAR35
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He must watch his language, mind his manners and be extra polite. It’s hard for a man to be real in church

So a "real man" is not polite or courteous according to this fellow.

Strange. We used to refer to such men as gentlemen and it was the highest class that a men could aspire to.

In fact there was a book written around the turn of the 20th century called, "The Religion of a Gentlemen" that pointed out that immersion in Christianity was the best way to reach such a high level of culture and civility.

But apparently that has gone by the wayside. "Real men" scratch their privates and spit on the floor while yelling obscenities. And any church that would stifle such true expressions of masculinity is "womanized"

Bunk.

The problem with men in the church is that too many of them are lazy. They will come to the cook outs but if there is a Sunday School class that needs a teacher or a fund raiser needs volunteers they have "to much to do".

About two years ago the leader of the men's group in my church came to this realization and decided that the men needed to spend less time having fun and contribute more to the body as a whole.

We now have men teaching Sunday school and classes in the church school. The men work in the food pantry. Men coach the Bible Quizzers. This has greatly expanded the amount of activities that are available to the young people and children of the church. Perhaps a quarter of the children they work with are not generation members. Their parents do not attend services at all. A lot of these kids come from fractured homes. Because of our mens group stepping up they now have strong Christian men as male role models.

And most importantly they have moved from observers to active members. It is now their church. There are still lots of fun and games but it is no longer the main focus.

42 posted on 08/15/2008 8:31:45 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A good marriage is like a casserole, only those responsible for it really know what goes into it.)
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It's the Gospel, stupid!

Galatians 3:28:

28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

49 posted on 08/16/2008 8:04:51 AM PDT by Calm_Cool_and_Elected (So many books, so little time!)
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To: Alex Murphy
In reference to the title of this thread..

A good friend of mine, who was a Baptist pastor, once told me that, "if you hear a pastor refer to a person as a 'good man' at his funeral, your heart should sink. This is because that is how many pastors refer to the deceased if they are unsure of the person's salvation. This was to give some comfort to the family, without proclaiming one way or the other what was in the man's heart." Point being, never leave any question about your salvation by being a living testimony to The Gift offered by Christ and openly declare your acceptance of Salvation.
53 posted on 08/16/2008 1:55:56 PM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: Alex Murphy

A minyon at Orthodox synagogue is formed by 10 or more men.


54 posted on 08/16/2008 9:56:42 PM PDT by onedoug
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It would be great if more men got involved in children’s ministry. By 10, the boys are sick of all the women and need the example of strong Christian men. What a great service that would be to the young men of the future.


71 posted on 08/17/2008 5:28:45 PM PDT by keepitreal ("I'm Barack Obama and I approve this message. . . until I don't.")
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To: Alex Murphy
The problem is that the sermon is usually on a broad topic and contains boilerplate text along with musings about the Pastor's life and how his wife controls him and the cute things his children/grandchildren do.

If the sermon was more on the Bible itself instead of a broad topic like forgiveness or redemption or some other topic you could see on Oprah, more men would be drawn in.

For example I doubt you will find many pastors talking about the falling of Jericho, or the construction of the tabernacle and Ark of the Covenant, or about the history of the Temple Mount.

84 posted on 08/18/2008 10:27:39 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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