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August 15, Feast of the Assumption - Did Mary's Assumption Really Occur? [Ecumenical]
NOR ^ | August 2008 | Hurd Baruch

Posted on 08/15/2008 6:40:23 AM PDT by NYer

Ed. Note: The Feast of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary is August 15.

What happened to the mother of Jesus Christ at the end of her life? The answer you get depends upon whom you ask. "Nothing unusual," say Protestants. "A miracle! She was taken directly to Heaven!" say Catholics -- at least those who know that Pope Pius XII solemnly proclaimed the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary as a dogma that all Catholics must believe: "The Immaculate Mother of God, the ever Virgin Mary, having completed the course of her earthly life, was assumed body and soul into heavenly glory" (Munificen­tissimus Deus, #44; reaffirmed at Vatican II in Lumen Gentium, #59).

Catholics who are accustomed to meditating on the mysteries of the Rosary might assume that all of the 20 events memorialized therein can be found in the Gospels, or at least elsewhere in the New Testament, but the Assumption is an exception to the rule. Not only is there no eyewitness account or even an unattributed description of the Assumption in Scripture, there is absolutely no hint of it. By way of comparison, see the accounts of the Ascension of Christ given in the Acts of the Apostles (1:6-12) and the Gospel of Luke (24:50-53), which have the Apostles as witnesses looking on as Christ rises up to Heaven.

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To: Dr. Eckleburg; AnAmericanMother
Mary received no crown.

Rev. 12:1

She received salvation by unmerited grace through faith in Christ, just like all Bible-believing Christians do.

Luke 1:28 - "Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with you." These are the words spoken by God and delivered by the angel Gabriel (who is a messenger of God).

In our Church, when the priest finishes proclaiming the Gospel, he elevates the Book of the Gospels and says: This is the Truth! . And so it is.

61 posted on 08/16/2008 6:09:45 AM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

This is an ecumenical thread. Not the place for criticism of other faiths. Take it to an open thread.


66 posted on 08/16/2008 7:55:45 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

This is an ecumenical thread. Take antagonism to an open thread.


67 posted on 08/16/2008 8:00:07 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: netmilsmom
You said: "Honestly, I don’t care much about what Protestants believe. And I don’t care what Protestants believe I believe."

I say: Thank You, I believe the same.

68 posted on 08/16/2008 8:06:47 AM PDT by defconw (Pray for Snow-RIP TONY, we love you.)
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To: TASMANIANRED

Beautiful.


69 posted on 08/16/2008 8:09:22 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: defconw

*smile*


70 posted on 08/16/2008 8:14:06 AM PDT by netmilsmom (The Party of Darkness prefers to have the lights out. - Go Fierce 50!!!)
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To: NYer; Salvation; narses; A.A. Cunningham
Wow! Another blessed, calm & collected Catholic thread.

I just don't know what we'd do without all the non-Catholic FReeper Catholicism “experts” to explain & criticize our religion. LOL

Hope you all have a happy & blessed Feast of the Assumption.

Semper Fi,
Kelly

71 posted on 08/15/2009 10:34:49 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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72 posted on 08/15/2009 12:18:57 PM PDT by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: NYer
A lot of people do not believe in Holy Tradition. Nebertheless, here is a tidbit from Holy Tradition.

According to one tradition, Mary was warned of her approaching end by Saint Michael the Archangel, who conducts souls to Heaven, and was surrounded on her death-bed by the apostles, who were miraculously transported to her bedside from their various mission-fields. It was said that Jesus appeared, bore away her soul, and returned three days after her burial, when angels carried her body to Paradise where it was reunited with her soul under the Tree of Life. 

73 posted on 08/15/2009 8:25:30 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: Mr Rogers

Maybe only St. John saw it and then told others about it. Early writings say John went to live at Ephesus and Mary accompanied him. No city ever claimed the relics of her remains. Maybe it was such a well known story that no one saw the need to write it down.

She was pretty humble. Maybe she asked that it happen quietly.

Maybe the Holy Spirit wanted it left ambiguous. It’s a leap of faith, like the Eucharist.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe no one knows where the original Ark of the Covenant is either. Coincidence?


74 posted on 08/15/2009 10:34:58 PM PDT by Melian ("An unexamined life is not worth living." ~Socrates)
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To: Hootowl

Or maybe John was drawing a distinction between ascending and being assumed. It seems to me ascending implies power and assumption is passive.


75 posted on 08/15/2009 10:37:43 PM PDT by Melian ("An unexamined life is not worth living." ~Socrates)
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To: xjcsa

John was also the caretaker of Mary—and in a way, Jesus’ best friend on earth. If anyone had witnessed her assumption, he would have. Yet in John’s epistles (also written late)...not a word about Mary, let alone her spectacular assumption.


76 posted on 08/17/2009 8:41:04 AM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: AnalogReigns

Excellent obesrvation.


77 posted on 08/17/2009 8:43:25 AM PDT by Jmouse007
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To: Jmouse007

For those interested in a NON-ECUMENICAL (and hence, uncensored) article and discussion on this topic, please see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2317949/posts .


78 posted on 08/17/2009 9:12:33 AM PDT by AnalogReigns
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