Posted on 07/16/2008 6:12:54 AM PDT by Gamecock
On the 20th and 21st, last week, Ryan and I drove down to Salt Lake City in Utah to stay with Bill McKeever of mrm.org. Bill, with several of his friends, along with Ryan and I, attended the Manti pageant. It is an event were Mormons gather to watch a pageant put on by the Mormon church. Basically, it is a public play where actors recount the means by which the "gospel was restored." I watched it and it is a blatant misrepresentation of the state of the Christian church in the early 1800s. The play represents Christianity as a mass of churches that do nothing but contradict each other while each one claims to be the only true church. This, of course, is not how it was but this is how the Mormons represent Christianity. It is a straw man, a false representation of the facts.
Because it is an annual event, a lot of Christians go there to witness. So picture this. 10,000 to 15,000 people milling around in a half mile by half-mile area were Mormons and Christians are interacting, arguing, debating. Both Ryan and I spoke with several Mormons over the two nights that we were there. We got to share the Gospel many times. One of the Christians at Manti named Aaron, who works with Bill McKeever, was standing on a small pedestal and preaching the gospel. A small crowd gathered around him to listen. As he would gather the crowd, a lot of Christians would gather as well and listen to the comments made by the Mormons. Then, they would start conversations with the individual Mormons and try to witness to them and present them the truth. As you can imagine, a lot of the conversations were heated but most of them were quite polite.
At one point while Aaron was preaching a young teenager approached Aaron and threw a cup of water on him. Aaron reacted in the most gracious manner possible. He called the young man back and gave him five dollars. The young man accepted it and then Aaron used the altercation as an illustration to talk about Grace, getting what you do not deserve. It was great!
Here's something that was quite interesting. There were bathrooms on private property attached to the street in Manti where people were milling around. Since it was a public event, the bathrooms were open to everyone. However, at one point the Mormons with the help of security and the police said that the Christians could not use the bathrooms. You might ask how they could tell the difference. Apparently the Mormons in security had been watching the Christians who kept starting conversations in the street near the bathrooms. As the night wore on and some of the Christians tried to use the facilities, the security and police turned them away. So, we call this bladdergate. Anyway, the Mormons did not come off looking too good and on Saturday night there was no such restriction.
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No, I didn't think you read it, thanks for the confirmation. So you like a sinning God as well - or is that just too much meat for the lurkers.
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I read it, then like the anties, that you seem to follow, I left out important parts to make the writings seem to be other then it really is.
You know, like the half truths used to lie about my church.
I am very careful when talking about the one true God’s church on earth.
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then , by what you say, the half/truths are a choice.
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Like asking a RC if they pray to dead people.We do pray that those who are in Heaven add their prayers to ours asking for Our Lord to hear our prayers. Is that what you are having trouble understanding and articulating?
***then , by what you say, the half/truths are a choice.****
try reading my post one more time...
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As a member of the Church that Father restored to the earth, I have to say I do not know.
If He was like Christ is to us, then no.
If He was like you and me, in his eternal progression He could have. Some day you will have to share your understand about before "in the beginning".
***As a member of the Church that Father restored to the earth***
There are dozens of Mormon sectlets that would say you are wrong.
Stalking me again, are you?
Sounds like an accurate assessment of the state of protestant churches today to me.
So, mormons like you like the idea about a sinning god?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2046272/posts?page=32#32
And that justifies sinning by lying too? But then you are short on citations of our half truths too.
Oh, I understand it just fine. I do have trouble getting RC’s to be consistently honest about it.
***You posted some of CARM’s teachings.***
What I posted was a report from the festival. Not hardly a teaching.
***Sounds like an accurate assessment of the state of protestant churches today to me. ***
And the dozens of Mormon sectlets.
Nothig like protestant Unity...
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And I didn't even list the Church of Christ...music playing sect and non music playing sect.
That's the MILDEST accusation of CoCo I have ever seen on a mormon thread! She is SUCH a sinner, leading others away from the "One True Crutch"....;)
..can't wait to share a dram with you all. Bailey's and coffee sounds purty good to me.
Maybe you are referring to this?
LDS Missionaries Photographed 'Mocking' Catholic Church
SALT LAKE CITY - The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints on Sunday expressed disappointment in three of its missionaries who were photographed behaving in a mocking manner at a Catholic church in Colorado.
Three missionaries were photographed at the Sangre de Cristo Catholic Church in San Luis, Colo. back in 2006. In one of the photos, which appeared at a picture-hosting website online, a missionary is preaching from the Book of Mormon at the head of the church's altar.
Another photograph shows one of the men holding the head of a broken statue. A third picture reportedly depicts one of the missionaries pretending to sacrifice another on the altar of the Shrine of the Mexican Martyrs at the site.
I'd say these actions go beyond "impolite" witnessing.
I did a mapquest search for the driving distances from East TN round about to the Binger’s spread. Oh my, when I plugged the nukbers into the cost for fuel for the round trip ... there are small third world countries that don’t have that large a budget! The fuel alone would run over $1700 at $3.75/gal. ... Do ya suppose we could all just grab a cold one and have an online chat every now and then? OH! We do that now at FR! ... And it’s only running $30/month!
Hmmmmmmm.. Well OK. And I looked so forward to pissing on the temple grounds. I was going to invite Jim Harmston my high school mate, the polyg over for a drink and getting his little woman Elaine over to tell us why she loves her sister wives. Lesseee, thats worth the cost of a few gallons of gas. Plus the book you produce can be better than the one written by Ken Kesey and his Merry Band of Pranksters. Please dear God, give me just one more reason to convince this troupe to get on their ponies next year. I cannot be political, however I'm certain we can figure something out.
After the research I’ve done on mormonism, you couldn’t pay me to wrtie a book on that cult.
Huh?
Which half?
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