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Additions to the Eucharistic Prayer? (Catholic Caucus)

Posted on 06/28/2008 7:27:00 PM PDT by bradthebuilder

Guys, I have never posted an article or comment before. However, today at Mass the celebrant added an interesting phrase to the Eucharistic Prayer. I hope to get some opinions on this matter.

So, in the part of the prayer that reads:

Lord, remember your Church throughout the world; make us grow in love, together with {Benedict} our Pope, {name of local bishop}, our bishop, and all the clergy.

The celebrant added something to the effect of "all the clergy, even the Jewish and muslim clergy".

Now, I was tending to my infant daughter, so I didn't quite hear everything he said but am certain he added his own inclusion.

Can anyone please comment?


TOPICS: Catholic; Worship
KEYWORDS: catholic; mass; nomass

1 posted on 06/28/2008 7:27:01 PM PDT by bradthebuilder
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To: NYer

The stuff of caucuses.


2 posted on 06/28/2008 7:32:41 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: bradthebuilder

I can’t say for absolute certain, but to judge by my 1986 St. Joseph Sunday Missal it ain’t legit.


3 posted on 06/28/2008 7:46:06 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: bradthebuilder

They’re not supposed to make any changes, PARTICULARLY in the Canon (the part with the Eucharistic Prayer). And that one was certainly a wierd change to make.


4 posted on 06/29/2008 3:01:48 AM PDT by livius
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To: bradthebuilder
...even the Jewish and muslim clergy...

That doesn't strike me as a part of the Mass which would permit this kind of ad libitum addition.

5 posted on 06/29/2008 3:29:22 AM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: bradthebuilder; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; ...
The celebrant added something to the effect of "all the clergy, even the Jewish and muslim clergy".

Ah yes, another priest who thinks he can add something without being noticed. Some of these priests take us for total idiots. From the web site linked below:


5.1 Changing the Prescribed Texts of the Mass; Ad Libbing; Inclusive Language 

All the texts of the Mass - prayers, responses, Epistles, Gospel - must be according to the norms approved by the Church. Under no circumstances can anything be changed outside of the rules laid down by the Church. This is clearly stated, even in Vatican II! The modernist usage of inclusive language is getting more widespread.

Sacrosanctum Concilium #22: (1) Regulation of the sacred liturgy depends solely on the authority of the Church, that is, on the Apostolic See, and, as laws may determine, on the bishop. (2) In virtue of power conceded by law, the regulation of the liturgy within certain defined limits belongs also to various kinds of bishops' conferences, legitimately established, with competence in given territories. (3) Therefore no other person, not even a priest, may add, remove, or change anything in the liturgy on his own authority.

Canon 928 The eucharistic celebration is to be carried out either in the Latin language or in another language, provided the liturgical texts have been lawfully approved.

Inaestimabile Donum #5. "Only the Eucharistic Prayers included in the Roman Missal or those that the Apostolic See has by law admitted, in the manner and within the limits laid down by the Holy See, are to be used. To modify the Eucharistic Prayers approved by the Church or to adopt others privately composed is a most serious abuse."

Be aware that it is possible to invalidate the Mass if the key words of the Eucharistic prayer are not properly performed as previously described. ("This is My Body" and "This is ... My Blood")

Is Your Mass Valid? Liturgical Abuse

Know your rights! Read through the information at this link and follow his suggestions. It is possible to address liturgical abuse in your parish and nip it in the bud. Good luck and keep us posted!

6 posted on 06/29/2008 10:21:45 AM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: bradthebuilder

First, your priest is probably an idiot.

Second, while a valid Mass, I would think that the change their makes the Mass illicit (not your fault obviously). Just think, his “interpretation” could have been far worse.


7 posted on 06/29/2008 10:36:29 AM PDT by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: bradthebuilder
It's called a "trope." If it isn't in Black, it should be read. I'd mention it to the priest first. If you get feedback, bring it to the attention of the Bishop. It is a serious offense against Redemptionis Sacramentum.

2. The Eucharistic Prayer

[51.] Only those Eucharistic Prayers are to be used which are found in the Roman Missal or are legitimately approved by the Apostolic See, and according to the manner and the terms set forth by it. “It is not to be tolerated that some Priests take upon themselves the right to compose their own Eucharistic Prayers”[129] or to change the same texts approved by the Church, or to introduce others composed by private individuals.[130]

[52.] The proclamation of the Eucharistic Prayer, which by its very nature is the climax of the whole celebration, is proper to the Priest by virtue of his Ordination. It is therefore an abuse to proffer it in such a way that some parts of the Eucharistic Prayer are recited by a Deacon, a lay minister, or by an individual member of the faithful, or by all members of the faithful together. The Eucharistic Prayer, then, is to be recited by the Priest alone in full.[131]

8 posted on 06/29/2008 10:37:16 AM PDT by Frank Sheed (Fr. V. R. Capodanno, Lt, USN, Catholic Chaplain. 3rd/5th, 1st Marine Div., FMF. MOH, posthumously.)
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To: Frank Sheed
If it isn't in Black, it should shouldn't be read.

Sorry about that!

9 posted on 06/29/2008 10:40:02 AM PDT by Frank Sheed (Fr. V. R. Capodanno, Lt, USN, Catholic Chaplain. 3rd/5th, 1st Marine Div., FMF. MOH, posthumously.)
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To: Frank Sheed
As Fr. Z says, "SAY THE BLACK, DO THE RED."

This is not rocket science, folks.

10 posted on 06/29/2008 11:01:49 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: bradthebuilder

That’s not in the changes as far as I know. I think a priest is going lefter and lefter on you.


11 posted on 06/30/2008 8:31:50 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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