Posted on 06/05/2008 7:57:03 AM PDT by Between the Lines
The god of genocide. How inspirational.
Maybe to some, but I just use the scientific method. Doing so means that you accept that nothing exists without scientific evidence for its existence. Most nonbelievers are like me. For them, atheism isn't a religion, it is the absence of a religion and a rejection of the supernatural for lack of evidence. It's not a choice at all. I CAN'T believe without evidence.
They're starting a church. I'n't that special.
Read the Bible, God has his reason for everything and by not following his command the Israelis absorbed a society that had open public orgies, child sacrifices, open stealing, and immorality and corruption at every level. It caused them to become immoral and turn from God and he issued several judgments against them for it.
No society can continue without falling by taking in that kind of behavior into its midsts. This great country that is America too will feel this type of fall if we do not stop the trend of tolerance and PC facade being perpetrated on us at every turn by the forces of evil and immorality. Whether you believe in God or not it spells a decay of your society to ignore/promote this type of behavior.
He gave his people the choice of driving out all Baal worshipers and those that chose not to leave were to be exterminated. His children chose to do what they wanted and spared those that would not move.
"What we want to do is give people questioning their beliefs a place to go for more information and to meet like-minded people."
Organizing people only works when the group is based on a belief system - not a non-belief. And that holds true for both atheist and interdenominational groups.
Eventually, people begin disagreeing on certain points, and the group narrows down to people who share one faith - whether that faith is secular humanism or a particular version of Christianity or an anything-goes version of faith or something else.
Non-belief doesn't hold people together. Only a shared faith does.
Really, you should quit before you do any more damage to the credibility of religion.
You’re starting from an assumption - materialism, then claiming that based on that assumption, that assumption is true.
Nice logic, if you can put it over on someone.
That assumption of materialism is your ACTIVE rejection of anything beyond the material, and it is a “theology”.
I don’t care about the credibility of religion. I do however read my Bible. Read Joshua and Judges.
In Jonah God was prepared to wipe out the city of Nineveh but when they responded to Jonah’s message and turned from their ways God showed His grace and spared them destruction. He had always rather be a loving God but He is not one to affront and ignore less you feel His wrath. Sodom and Gomorrah, there are others.
Thanks for the ping I need to get up to speed here.
Nice logic, if you can put it over on someone.
Well let's change the wording a little.
"You’re starting from an assumption - the existence of God, then claiming that based on that assumption, that the existence of God is true."
You are absolutely correct, the assumption does not make the conclusion true. Atheists agree that the lack of evidence that God exists, does not prove that God exists.
It is for this reason that I often state that education can never be religiously neutral.
Yes! There is no alternative to the Truth. When you seek the truth, you find it, end of story.
No doubt, but I’m sure God hasn’t yet commanded us or anyone to annihilate atheists or even Muslims (as much as so many of them deserve it). I get the impression that given Christianity’s nature of individual choice, you can very much allow dissenting viewpoints to do as they will since they’ll pay for it in the end.
As content (or, in many cases smug) as many atheists seem to be, I would imagine it’s a pretty lonely existence. I mean, if this were really all there was to it?
Some song lyrics come to mind—”Try to make ends meet, try to make some money, then you die.”
I cannot speak for God but I assume that the reason we are not asked to do this is because we Christians are no better and are sinful and it is his way of judging us. We get what we deserve.
The immorality in our culture is just as rampant from professed Christians as in atheist or other religions. Until we as a country decide to repent and turn away from the mounting immorality then we have no right to enforce anything on anyone.
Nope, we don’t start from an assumption of a Creator,
but, we don’t automatically exclude the possibility then try to make all theories fit it, like the “yo yo universe” theory proposed to exclude the evidence of a beginning of the universe.
Atheists limit their discovery to the material in order to avoid the consequences of the possibility of a Creator.
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