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This is a description of how the mormon church and its members view those who choose to exercise their "free agency" and leave the church.
1 posted on 06/04/2008 6:57:23 AM PDT by greyfoxx39
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2 posted on 06/04/2008 6:58:12 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Protected species legislation enacted May 2008.)
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Mormons are really sensitive about that. It’s really weird how that is handled.

I’ve also found that ex-Mormons never leave the church. They just stand outside and yell at it.


3 posted on 06/04/2008 7:05:59 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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Statement by Sandra Tanner. Since I was born and raised in the Mormon church, and am a great-great-grandchild of Brigham Young, I had very strong ties to the Mormon faith. I was about seventeen before I ever attended another church. As a teenager my life centered around the Mormon church. Because I was active and paying my tithing I thought I was in pretty good standing with God. I knew I sinned but I felt my activity in church would somehow outweigh what I did wrong. I believed (as the Mormons teach) that I was inherently good. I had no fear of God’s judgment. Besides the things that were wrong in my own life, I began to have doubts about my church. Could it really be the only true church? Was polygamy really right? Why couldn’t the Negro hold the priesthood? Was temple marriage really so important? Why were its rites kept such a secret? Did God actually command Mormons to wear special under-garments? I had many questions going through my mind.
When I started college I enrolled in the Mormon Institute of Religion class. I started asking questions in class, trying to find answers to my doubts. But one day my institute teacher took me aside and told me to please stop asking questions in class. There was a girl attending the class who was thinking of joining the church and I was disturbing her with my questions. What a surprise! I had hoped to find answers to the many things that were bothering me and now I had been silenced.
Shortly after this I met Jerald and we began studying the Bible and Mormonism together. As we studied I began to see the contradictions between the Bible and the teaching of the Mormon church. I had grown up thinking that Brigham Young was one of the greatest men that ever lived. He was always presented to me as such a holy man—God’s prophet, seer, and revelator. Then Jerald had me read some of Brigham Young’s sermons in the Journal of Discourses on blood atonement. I was shocked! I knew what Brigham Young was saying was wrong but I couldn’t reconcile these sermons with the things I had always been taught concerning him. I knew these were not the words of a prophet of God.
Jerald also showed me the changes that had been made in Joseph Smith’s revelations. The thought kept coming to me that if God had actually given those revelations to Joseph Smith why would they need rewriting? Surely the Creator of the universe could say it right the first time!
As I studied I not only found errors in Mormonism, I also began to comprehend there was something wrong in my own life. As I studied God’s Word I realized I was a sinful hypocrite. In spite of my sins I had thought I was right with God. Yet the Bible says: “For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life, through Jesus Christ our Lord” (Rom. 6:23).
After Jerald and I were married we started visiting the different Protestant churches. As I listened to the sermons I began to realize that God was not concerned with peoples’ church affiliations, but with a personal relationship. Christ taught a way of love, not a religious system. He stated: “By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another” (John 13:35). Paul taught that we should “walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us . . .” (Eph. 5:2).
God reaches out to man, not because he deserves it, but because God loves him. John wrote: “Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins” (1 John 4:10). Paul wrote: “But God, who is rich in mercy, . . . even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ . . . For by grace are ye save through faith; and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast” (Eph. 2:4, 5, 8, 9).
I now want to share with you the particular events of the day I surrendered my heart and life to Jesus Christ: Early one morning (October 24, 1959) I decided to listen to the radio for a while. I turned to the Christian radio station and listened to a sermon. The minister was preaching on the great love of God and the mercy offered to us through Jesus Christ. Nothing ever struck me with such force. I opened my heart to God and accepted Christ as my own personal Saviour. The Holy Spirit flooded my soul with such joy that I wept for over an hour. After the sermon the station played this song written by Elton M. Roth—
I love the Christ who died on Calv’ry,
For He washed my sins away;
He put within my heart a melody,
And I know it’s there to stay.
In my heart there rings a melody,
There rings a melody with heaven’s harmony;
In my heart there rings a melody,
There rings a melody of love.
This song fully describes the way I felt. How glorious to know Christ died for my sins so I could have a new life in Him. Our lives testify to all we meet whether or not we are truly Christians. Paul wrote: “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, long-suffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance; against such there is no law” (Gal. 5:22-23). Sandra Tanner
Today converts are swarming into the Mormon church, but very few of them really know much about Mormonism. We feel safe in saying that many of them are converted to the social program of the church rather than to its doctrines. Those who were born in the church in many cases “know” it is true but don’t know why it is true. Many Mormons will stand up in testimony meeting and dogmatically assert that Joseph Smith was a prophet and that they belong to “the only true church,” but very few of them check to make sure that their faith is based on reality. Many members of the Mormon church prefer to let their leaders do their thinking (”when our leaders speak, the thinking has been done”); it is so easy to let someone else do our thinking. The Bible warns: “Thus saith the Lord; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the Lord” (Jer. 17:5). We sincerely hope and pray that the Mormon people will begin to awaken to the true message of Christ, realizing that in Him, and Him alone, can we have salvation—salvation that brings genuine deliverance from sin and real fellowship with the God who loved us enough to die for us.


5 posted on 06/04/2008 7:19:33 AM PDT by proudpapa (McCain-Pawlenty '08)
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To: greyfoxx39
This is a description of how the mormon church and its members view those who choose to exercise their "free agency" and leave the church.

You shouldn't lump all members together with such generalizations. The majority of time when someone leaves the church, it's not hell fire and brimstone, but rather a reaching out by other members and leaders. If they don't come back, there's usually a hope that one day they will change their mind, but I have never heard one condemened to hell for leaving, even if they have their names taken off church rolls.
10 posted on 06/04/2008 8:14:14 AM PDT by Blowtorch
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I left the LDS church after hearing and believing the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I have not yet removed my name from the LDS Church membership rolls as this would devastate my parents. My belief in obeying all Ten Commandments keeps me from dishonoring my parents in this way. I will remove my name from the Church membership rolls upon the death of both my parents.


27 posted on 06/04/2008 9:51:08 AM PDT by whipitgood (Neither of, by, nor for the people any longer...)
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Brethren, for some time Satan has NOT had power to tempt you.

Brethren, for some time Satan has NOT had power to tempt you.

Brethren, for some time Satan has NOT had power to tempt you.

Yeah... Sure...

30 posted on 06/04/2008 10:32:32 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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Thank you for the article.

Please remember that there is more information then the summaries of the different posters.

37 posted on 06/04/2008 12:40:49 PM PDT by fproy2222 ( Jesus is the Christ)
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To: greyfoxx39
While we're on the subject...

“There are those who mock our beliefs in the most uncharitable ways. And we will bear what they do with long-suffering, for it does not change truth. And in their own way they move our work along a little faster.”

—Boyd K. Packer

Keep up the good work.

42 posted on 06/04/2008 7:26:27 PM PDT by sevenbak (...Christ ministered by us, written not with ink... but in fleshy tables of the heart. 2 Cor. 3: 3)
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