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Mormons, Scientologists face uphill battle against Wikileaks
arstechnica.com ^ | May 14, 2008 | Nate Anderson

Posted on 05/27/2008 8:26:20 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion

Can Mormon women wear pants when visiting a temple? Can men wear cummerbunds during a marriage ceremony? Are vasectomies an appropriate birth control option? The answers to these (no, no, and not really) and similar questions about Mormon practice and leadership might not seem to be especially secret, but the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints isn't pleased about secret church documents hitting the Internet.

In this case, the cause of the displeasure is the confidential Church Handbook of Instructions, published by Wikileaks on April 16. The church is currently trying to get the information pulled down using copyright infringement notices, but Wikileaks doesn't respond to such requests. The church has turned instead to targeting other sites that host or link the handbook.

Scribd, a sort of "YouTube for documents," has already taken down a copy of the material after receiving a copyright infringement notice from the Intellectual Property Division of the Church (who knew churches had such divisions?). The church has also gone after the Wikimedia Foundation, the group that oversees Wikipedia and Wikinews (it has no connection to Wikileaks). What's interesting about the takedown request is that the Wikimedia Foundation did not actually host or even cite the material in question; a Wikinews article published on April 19 simply mentioned the existence of the handbooks at Wikileaks and provided a link to it. In response, Wikimedia also received a copyright infringement notice from Intellectual Reserve, the church's IP division. The link was subsequently removed.

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KEYWORDS: cults; intellectualproperty; internet; lds; mormon; mormons; privacy
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
It seems easier to get pee out of a pool than to get something “off the internet”.

I Lol'd!!!

I have no desire to snoop in the secret/sacred rituals of the Mormons, any more than I would want to stick my head in a Catholic confessional.

Still, that line was funny. Thanks.

21 posted on 05/27/2008 9:03:27 PM PDT by Ronin (Is there some PC rule on FR that says that when an evil man gets sick, we must pretend he was saint?)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Please do not use potty language on the Religion Forum.


22 posted on 05/27/2008 9:31:34 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

Aw, come on, that was as good as the saying that someone is not the sharpest knife in the drawer.


23 posted on 05/27/2008 9:53:06 PM PDT by lolhelp
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To: lolhelp

It was funny. But I must be even-handed. I can’t say that’s ok because it is funny and that one is not ok because it isn’t funny.


24 posted on 05/27/2008 10:03:04 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

The wikileak link was missing.

Praise my God for Sola Scriptura as that is one heck of a document. I scrolled through......wouldn’t want to read it!


25 posted on 05/27/2008 10:52:37 PM PDT by proudtobeanamerican1 (Media -)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

It’s not there now. (1:00 am 5/29) Anybody got a link?


26 posted on 05/27/2008 11:06:41 PM PDT by pankot
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Can any of the Mormon Freepers tell me why all the emphasis on being “endowed?” I mean, doesn’t that leave out a lot of folks? LOL


27 posted on 05/28/2008 4:30:51 AM PDT by Flo Nightengale (Keep sweet? I'll show you sweet.....)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
It seems easier to get pee out of a pool than to get something “off the internet”.

On first reading, I missed the first "get." It works that way too, and it creates much better imagery. <}B^)

28 posted on 05/28/2008 4:51:36 AM PDT by Erasmus (Nihilism never amounted to anything.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

It reads like a case of “He’s not behind this door!”

What it does not contain: Spirit baptisms, any policies and procedures for or against sealing the dead except children and spouses, any secret rituals or procedures, etc.


29 posted on 05/28/2008 5:10:31 AM PDT by dangus
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To: GOP_Raider
Some of the female students I've seen at the University of Utah wear pants VERY well...

But NOT to the Temple! Not allowed. Nor are they worn to regular Sunday Service which is called Sacrament Meeting.

30 posted on 05/28/2008 5:12:30 AM PDT by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Saundra Duffy

ROTFL. There you go reinforcing stereotypes. (Yes, I am only kidding.)


31 posted on 05/28/2008 5:13:07 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Saundra Duffy

Maybe someone will leak the financial reports from my Methodist church. I have yet to see them and I am on the Church Council. In the Presbyterian Church, they are posted in the bulletin.


32 posted on 05/28/2008 5:13:16 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: svcw; Saundra Duffy

>> I can kinda understand the prohibition of woman and pants in the temple, even the vasectomy as birth control but what is the deal with cummerbunds at weddings (besides they are stupid looking)? <<

Simplicity, right? Cummerbunds are just show-offy. The same passage also forbids wedding trains, boutineers (sp?), etc. It’s a little alien, but I respect that.


33 posted on 05/28/2008 5:15:34 AM PDT by dangus
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To: colorcountry

The old school Pentacostal churches around here do not allow the women to wear pants. They also have to keep their hair long. But they won’t stop you at the door if you get a haircut.


34 posted on 05/28/2008 5:16:48 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Erasmus; aMorePerfectUnion

Lol. I missed the “get” also. I didn’t even look a second time. I’m getting too used to weird colloquialisms being spread over the internet.


35 posted on 05/28/2008 5:17:20 AM PDT by dangus
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Not there any more


36 posted on 05/28/2008 5:19:05 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy
The Church probably doesn’t want people making fun of us. That’s all.

so a multi billion dollar oempire is concerned that people will laugh

A Christian would welcome the scorn - its a blessing

37 posted on 05/28/2008 5:21:11 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: AppyPappy

Peer pressure. That’s how they keep you uniform.

I doubt if any of the old school Penatcostals would go against the congregation and cut their hair. That act would be too rebellious.

Everything we do, what we wear, what we drink is earthly and won’t save us one whit. But as Paul says, don’t let your freedom cause anyone to stumble (I’m paraphrasing, obviously)


38 posted on 05/28/2008 5:26:17 AM PDT by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Revelation 911; Saundra Duffy

Shhhhh....don’t tell Saundra, but they are already laughing.


39 posted on 05/28/2008 5:27:26 AM PDT by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: colorcountry; Pan_Yans Wife; MHGinTN; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; Osage Orange; Greg F; ...

Ping


40 posted on 05/28/2008 5:31:10 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Protected species legislation enacted May 2008.)
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