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Beatification for Pope John Paul II next year? [OPEN]
CWN ^ | 5/21/2008

Posted on 05/21/2008 3:15:02 PM PDT by markomalley

Krakow, May. 21, 2008 (CWNews.com) - A Polish newspaper has predicted that the beatification of Pope John Paul II will take place next year.

Zycie Warszawy speculates that the late Pontiff could be beatified on April 2, the anniversary of his death, or on October 16, 2009, the anniversary of his election to the papacy.

Earlier this month another Polish newspaer, Dziennik, had said that the beatification could take place on October 16 of this year, the 30th anniversary of John Paul's election. That prediction appeared unrealistic, since the cause for beatification of the late Pontiff still has several hurdles to clear and organizers will want ample time to prepare for the ceremony.

The new prediction by Zycie Warszawy matches a story produced by SIR, the news agency of the Italian bishops' conference, suggesting that Pope John Paul will be beatified within the next year.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; History; Worship
KEYWORDS: beatification; johnpaul; vatican
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1 posted on 05/21/2008 3:15:02 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Needs a miracle, right?


2 posted on 05/21/2008 3:43:12 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (This day we fight! By all that you hold dear, on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

There have already been one or two miracles attributed to him.

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/3/13/150456.shtml


3 posted on 05/21/2008 3:45:18 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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To: markomalley

With all due respect, I find this a bit bizarre, not to say unseemly and “enthusiastic”.


4 posted on 05/21/2008 4:09:24 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: Kolokotronis
With all due respect, I find this a bit bizarre, not to say unseemly and “enthusiastic”.

Surely you remember the cries for "Santo Subito!!!!" at his funeral...

5 posted on 05/21/2008 4:14:25 PM PDT by markomalley (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Kolokotronis
With all due respect, I find this a bit bizarre, not to say unseemly and “enthusiastic”.

I've got to agree with you. While he was a great man and in spite of popular acclaim, the Roman curia must be as stringent scrutinizing his life as they would anyone else's.

6 posted on 05/21/2008 4:18:23 PM PDT by E. Cartman (Screw MacCain and the elephant he rode in on.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; markomalley; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...
Needs a miracle, right?

There are already 2 documented miracles - the cure of a nun from Parkinson's disease and a Neapolitan man of lung cancer.

Santo Subito!

7 posted on 05/21/2008 4:21:19 PM PDT by NYer (Jesus whom I know as my Redeemer cannot be less than God. - St. Athanasius)
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To: Kolokotronis

>>With all due respect, I find this a bit bizarre, not to say unseemly and “enthusiastic”.<<

Me too!

A wonderful, spiritual man that allowed the smoke of Satan into our seminaries while he “ministered” to non-Catholics.


8 posted on 05/21/2008 4:34:00 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ironmom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: markomalley

>>Surely you remember the cries for “Santo Subito!!!!” at his funeral... <<

I really don’t care about that at all.

I pray that this waits, a good long time until we see his “fruits”.


9 posted on 05/21/2008 4:35:17 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ironmom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: markomalley

Some people will like this ——

Others will not.

Hmmmm.


10 posted on 05/21/2008 5:01:01 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: markomalley

So? I could predict that he’ll be beatified on November 3, 2287 ... with the same level of authority as this source.


11 posted on 05/21/2008 6:02:42 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("If Global Warming did not exist, the left would have to invent it. In fact, they did." ~Don Feder)
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To: markomalley; Kolokotronis

Way too early.

I think his death was heroic and if anything, that should be examined. But the Church completely collapsed during his pontificate and he did little to nothing to bring it back. He had a very hands-off management style at a crucial moment. I think he became sort of a cult of personality, which may have attracted some people but did nothing to help the Church as a whole.

He may well qualify for sainthood on a personal level, however, because he was truly heroic in letting the media at him when he was no longer a star but a dying elderly man. But I think perhaps one has to separate his governance of the Church from his personal sanctity.

That’s the reason I would like to see this proceed slowly; but on the other hand, many people have made it to beatification and no further. So we shall see, I guess...


12 posted on 05/21/2008 6:05:08 PM PDT by livius
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“Surely you remember the cries for “Santo Subito!!!!” at his funeral...”

Yes...enthusiasm.


13 posted on 05/21/2008 6:34:45 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: livius; markomalley; NYer; Tax-chick; Salvation; netmilsmom; Mrs. Don-o; E. Cartman; ...

“I think he became sort of a cult of personality, which may have attracted some people but did nothing to help the Church as a whole.”

As a general proposition, he was not particularly well thought of among Orthodox people, from hierarchs on down. It was precisely this personality cult, what we saw as his showman style and frankly his distinctly un-Orthodox, rather loose theology which turned us off. That said, I oubt his personal holiness wasn’t doubted. You know what we think of +BXVI.


14 posted on 05/21/2008 6:42:18 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: Kolokotronis

The sooner the better. This man was a saint.


15 posted on 05/21/2008 7:24:56 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Second it myself. Remember this Pope helped bring many young people to faith in God. This is why there is a “JPII generation”. Also with the help of both Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thacther, he started the liberation of first Poland, then then the rest of Eastern Europe. That being said, the man is a saint.


16 posted on 05/21/2008 7:44:35 PM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: Kolokotronis

At least thank JPII for helping to liberate Eastern Europe from the oppression of communism.


17 posted on 05/21/2008 7:47:27 PM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: livius

Please see posts number 16 and 17.


18 posted on 05/21/2008 7:49:13 PM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: netmilsmom

One of the fruits is the “JPII generation”. He planted the seeds with the starting of the WYD. Plus the need for Papacy to make visits to the nations the Church is in. This most recent trip to America of B16 would not be possible if the foundation was not laid by his predisesor.


19 posted on 05/21/2008 7:54:11 PM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: markomalley

It would not suprise me if JPII is beautifield next year, although that would be the shortest time after a saintly person’s passing for the person to be beautifield. But then again, Blessed Mother Teresia of Calcutta was made blessed only after 5 years after her passing.


20 posted on 05/21/2008 7:59:20 PM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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