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The Hypocrisy of Catholic Answers [Mormons taking 150.000 Catholics a year?]
http://beggarsallreformation.blogspot.com/2008/05/hypocrisy-of-catholic-answers.html ^ | 10 May, 2008 | Carrie at Beggars All

Posted on 05/10/2008 9:14:50 AM PDT by Ottofire

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To: JRochelle

If the LDS church has such a high rate of inactivity, they wouldn’t be creating over 350 Wards or congregations every year. That’s nearly 1 a day. Why spend so much money on an empty building?

Here is an interesting look at the growth of the Church worldwide up to the year 2004.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_7qTaGejuY


61 posted on 05/10/2008 5:07:09 PM PDT by sevenbak (1 Corinthians 2:14)
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To: Ottofire

I think you might have misread many of the LDS on these threads. We’ve always stated we’re not Orthodox Christians. What we have a problem with is the “ownership” of Jesus by the trinity bunch.


62 posted on 05/10/2008 5:09:08 PM PDT by sevenbak (1 Corinthians 2:14)
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To: sevenbak

I have seen what converting souls is like in the third world. I know how it goes, they attend for a while and are baptized. Then when the first trial comes along, they are done.

I am not doubting your numbers about new wards etc. I am just stating fact about third world conversions.


63 posted on 05/10/2008 5:12:41 PM PDT by JRochelle (Keep sweet means shut up and take it.)
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To: DManA

Yes.


64 posted on 05/10/2008 5:13:59 PM PDT by JRochelle (Keep sweet means shut up and take it.)
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To: TheDon

Africa too. It’s exploding over there.

But you are right, Europe is not.


65 posted on 05/10/2008 5:20:59 PM PDT by sevenbak (1 Corinthians 2:14)
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To: Alex Murphy
Utah was the only state where Bill Clinton in came in 3rd place. While you will find a few Democrat LDS, it's rare.

Harry Reid is a piece of work!

66 posted on 05/10/2008 5:22:40 PM PDT by sevenbak (1 Corinthians 2:14)
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To: TASMANIANRED

Posthumous baptism is not part of those records. How could it be done? Just because an earthly baptism takes place, we have no way to know wither or not the ordinance was accepted by that soul on the other side.


67 posted on 05/10/2008 5:26:09 PM PDT by sevenbak (1 Corinthians 2:14)
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To: sevenbak
Posthumous baptism is not part of those records. How could it be done? Just because an earthly baptism takes place, we have no way to know wither or not the ordinance was accepted by that soul on the other side.

Bears repeating. BUT, if someone is baptized mormon, disappears from sight for 50 years, is it NOT true that their name is kept on the membership rolls and counted in the membership statistics until that person would be 110..or is it 113? Regardless of whether that person has joined another church?

If you dispute this, please post the official source for the dispute. Thanks

68 posted on 05/10/2008 5:29:18 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Plea to mormon FReepers, "DONT HOSE ME, BRO!")
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To: humblegunner

Wrong group. Young boys are cast our of the FLDS because they are considered competition.

Young boys in the LDS faith end up being heavily involved in the Boy Scouts, and other youth activities within the LDS community. The LDS BSA program is one of the largest in the Nation.


69 posted on 05/10/2008 5:37:47 PM PDT by sevenbak (1 Corinthians 2:14)
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To: elcid1970

I think your posts are dipped in pig grease too.


70 posted on 05/10/2008 5:38:33 PM PDT by sevenbak (1 Corinthians 2:14)
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To: JRochelle

Yes, I agree with you. Careful not to let the branch grow faster than the root has strength.


71 posted on 05/10/2008 5:39:56 PM PDT by sevenbak (1 Corinthians 2:14)
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To: Enosh

Mozzarella Cheese,


72 posted on 05/10/2008 6:10:52 PM PDT by BlueMoose
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To: sevenbak

You misunderstand..

The question isn’t one of validity but of numbers.


73 posted on 05/10/2008 6:19:54 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: JRochelle

‘Cause as a Christian baptized in a Lutheran church, I could join the Catholic church without being re-baptized. And vice versa. In fact that’s true with most Protestant churchs. Wonder what makes Mormons so different?


74 posted on 05/10/2008 6:30:34 PM PDT by DManA
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To: All

I can speak for myself and at least a dozen I know personally like me....

When we were growing up, in an Catholic Italian neighborhood, and we had any questions about the Catholic faith we were told “because I said so” and “God will send you to hell if you don’t” and things like that or we got a clip in the back of the head for asking. These were not silly or pita questions, but serious questions about why we believe as we do and anything we might have found to be contradictory. Well, stuff like that might work for a kid of 7 or 9, but not for teenagers or young adults.

We were baptized, made communion and then confirmation pretty much because we were told to. We did not get money back then. We got a bible with our name printed in gold or a medallion with the Lord’s Prayer or a special set of rosary beads. Oh yea, and a new outfit.

as I said... I know at least a dozen ppl like me.. baptism, communion and confirmation... and never really bother with church except for holiday’s and occasions. And then, only because we are supposed to.

As an adult, I know dozens of Catholics, only about 3 of which go to church on a regular basis. I can see how other faiths can see ppl like this as prime pickings for conversion.

It is not my intention to insult, inflame or upset anyone or their faith. Just wanted to put forth my experience for consideration.


75 posted on 05/10/2008 6:32:26 PM PDT by KarenMarie
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To: TASMANIANRED
No, I didn't misunderstand. Proxy baptisms are not counted among the 300k per year and 13 million members.

Living and breathing only.

76 posted on 05/10/2008 6:36:53 PM PDT by sevenbak (1 Corinthians 2:14)
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To: Ottofire

Out of one bad belief in to another bad belief


77 posted on 05/10/2008 6:46:38 PM PDT by 1Truthseeker (willfully ignorant in Greek means dumb on purpose.)
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To: DManA

Its the theology. And they don’t believe in the Trinity.


78 posted on 05/10/2008 6:50:34 PM PDT by JRochelle (Keep sweet means shut up and take it.)
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To: TASMANIANRED

http://www.sltrib.com/lds/ci_2890645

“By multiplying the number of members in each area by these fractions, David G. Stewart Jr. estimates worldwide activity at about 35 percent - which would give the church about 4 million active members.
Stewart, an active Mormon who served a mission to Russia in the early 1990s, has been conducting research on LDS missionary work in 20 countries for 13 years, examining census figures, and analyzing published data.
Take Brazil. In its 2000 Census, 199,645 residents identified themselves as LDS, while the church listed 743,182 on its rolls.”


79 posted on 05/10/2008 7:22:17 PM PDT by ansel12 (Unfortunately, son, we 'Utahans' sometimes have to bend the rules a little in order to hold our own.)
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To: DManA; JRochelle

Mormonism is a unique religion of it’s own, it does not recognize any Christian baptism whatsoever, but of course Christianity does not accept Mormonism’s “baptism” either.


80 posted on 05/10/2008 7:27:18 PM PDT by ansel12 (Unfortunately, son, we 'Utahans' sometimes have to bend the rules a little in order to hold our own.)
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