WWFSMD?
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Posted on 05/08/2008 5:04:47 PM PDT by Grig
I am posting this on behalf of many LDS freepers. They will post their own 'signature' to this in the comments below. --- Some of you have noticed lately a lot of LDS (ie: Mormon) threads here on FR. I'm going to tell you why.
For many years there have been several active LDS freepers here. We post to all the forums on relevant issues, and were happy to have a site where conservative values were so openly welcomed.
Those conservative values include faith in God, and freedom of religion. We fully respect the rights of all posters to express their opinions and views on religious matters, even when people choose to use those rights to express criticism of our own faith. We also support the ideas embodied in FR rules against religion bashing. There is no need for hostility and there should be no room for bigotry on FR. Every religion has it's miracles and mysteries. Every faith has things in it that are not or can not be proven, and things that run contrary to what secular science would have us believe. Someone mature and confident in their own faith generally doesn't feel the need to belittle the faith of others.
We have, to the best of our ability, conducted ourselves with civility and dignity. We do not feel that that respect has been returned by some posters (putting it mildly).
When Mormon missionaries were murdered, the moderators were kept busy pulling jubilant posts off the thread. When Elizabeth Smart was abducted from her home, we contended for months with posters who appeared to be motivated by religious bigotry doing all they could to smear the family and accuse the father. Several posters openly admitted their religious motivation in opposing Mitt Romney and confessed that no matter how conservative any Mormon was, they would never vote for one for President of the USA. When the Pope died, I don't think any Mormon poster posted anything unkind, yet the thread about the passing of our President recently needed many comments removed.
Nearly every thread having any connection with Mormons, or Utah winds up being hijacked by anti-Mormon activists who copy and paste the same false accusations over and over even when it has been clearly and factually pointed out to them on multiple occasions that they are bearing false witness against our faith. Everything possible is done by these activists to make FR a hostile place for Mormons, and for at least some of them, bashing Mormonism is all they do here. Their most recent project is trying to blur the fact that the polygamous FLDS is a separate and distinct religion from ours, just as Lutherans are a separate and distinct religion from Catholicism.
In our opinion, such poster do a great disservice to FR and to their fellow freepers by spreading disinformation and promoting hostility towards a people known for walking the walk of conservative values.
Why the moderators here don't see the behavior of these anti-Mormon activists as religion bashing is a mystery to us, but it is the moderators call to make and we respect their right to do so. That doesn't mean we have to be passive however. We have all spent many hours refuting the accusations leveled at our faith, but these wind up buried deep in a flood of comments, effectively shouting us down.
Recently some of us have decided to take a more proactive approach. Rather than try to wrestle the pig into taking a bath, we are just going to hose it down. We will actively define our faith here rather than just respond to accusations.
So expect to see lots of Mormon threads, now and for as long as we see fit to keep posting them (although probably not as many as there are Catholic threads). They will be about our basic doctrines and responses to common accusations. If you want to know what our faith is about, read the articles we post. We will post them as open threads and I encourage you to compare the difference in tone and spirit between what we post and what our critics say.
WWFSMD?
I knew that this particular thread was in Religion, but was not aware of the latter news.
On behalf of myself and more than a few others, thank you.
G'night all...
bless you my son
I 'marvel' at the fact that you will not try to say what was UNTRUE about PRESBYTERIANISM that Joseph Smith learned.
There may be Presbie lurkers here, that will spend untold amounts of time in an UNTRUE place; all because YOU will not point out the OBVIOUS UNTRUTHS of PRESBYTERIANISM!
“one measley convert” That would make a great book title.
Or how ‘bout:
The Weak and the Simple of the Church
That’s me, too - “one measley weak and simple convert”
http://www.lds.org/conference/talk/display/0,5232,23-1-775-2,00.html
I think you might have made a mistake by saying “one measley convert” meaning it as a put down. I can’t think of anything more glorious than “one measley convert”. Remember the story of the 99 sheep and one lost. The Lord coming home with the lost sheep after having searched high and low. Yahoo!
Thanks. I guess I won’t be saying that again. I also guess I do a better job than I thought when perusing the threads to skip overtly religious discussions that I have no interest in. I swear I actually read one of those threads, and have no recollection of reading what I just read.
I had figured someone would give me a link to someone saying that polygamy couldn’t be all bad because it was practiced in the bible. I didn’t expect to find someone who would argue that because God didn’t smite a person for Polygamy, that it must still be blessed by Him.
It NEVER happens; except to post stuff and say, "There it is! Right in front of your eyes!! Why can't you SEE it?
You need to study and understand better."
While the threads, criticizing MormonISM, have been right on target.
“That’s a twist on what I said. I said there are some denominations which do not reject MORMONS as Christians.”
LOL,
I thought that it could be a Charles thing and I almost mentioned that I thought it could be a word trick but I didn’t.
So it all turned out to be a waste of time when you could have just not thrown in such a statement, since anyone could have known how it’s meaning would have been taken.
You may think its worth it. The carpet bombers had to mow down hundreds with the venemous tongue in their wake. Not worth it to me. But God bless ya.
Thank you, II, but that’s a priest’s job; a real one, not some LDS knockoff.
... With a possible exception for the noodly FMS... :)
Silly Wabbit!
The same weason that EVERLASTING Covenant of POLYGAMY was re-interpreted by Wilford and Snow!
Thank you, II, but that’s a priest’s job; a real one, not some LDS knockoff.
... With a possible exception for the noodly FSM... :)
PERSONAL or not?
I would 'guess' that many just didn't give a rat's patootie!
There was a time in the beginning when there wasn't a Religion forum on FR. This is like a return to the Wild West.
The vanity at the top of this thread reminds me of the sound Rush makes when he imitates a whining, crying child who doesn't get his way.
Cordially,
Blessing for Enosh. May the interstates continually run thru your outhouses.
“You think I consider the carpet bomber brigade dishing out tongue lashing “love” for ten years searching for and finally supposedly garnering one measley convert a success? lol. That’s rich.”
Even if only one soul was saved, that is enough to justify the effort.
Polygamy is not a word that’s in the Bible. Polygamy is a word that connotes illegality. There appears to be some confusion regarding flds vs. lds. Perhaps this will help:
http://www.newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/commentary/clarifying-polygamy-confusion
Clarifying Polygamy Confusion
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