Why so many LDS threads?

I am posting this on behalf of many LDS freepers. They will post their own 'signature' to this in the comments below. --- Some of you have noticed lately a lot of LDS (ie: Mormon) threads here on FR. I'm going to tell you why.

For many years there have been several active LDS freepers here. We post to all the forums on relevant issues, and were happy to have a site where conservative values were so openly welcomed.

Those conservative values include faith in God, and freedom of religion. We fully respect the rights of all posters to express their opinions and views on religious matters, even when people choose to use those rights to express criticism of our own faith. We also support the ideas embodied in FR rules against religion bashing. There is no need for hostility and there should be no room for bigotry on FR. Every religion has it's miracles and mysteries. Every faith has things in it that are not or can not be proven, and things that run contrary to what secular science would have us believe. Someone mature and confident in their own faith generally doesn't feel the need to belittle the faith of others.

We have, to the best of our ability, conducted ourselves with civility and dignity. We do not feel that that respect has been returned by some posters (putting it mildly).

When Mormon missionaries were murdered, the moderators were kept busy pulling jubilant posts off the thread. When Elizabeth Smart was abducted from her home, we contended for months with posters who appeared to be motivated by religious bigotry doing all they could to smear the family and accuse the father. Several posters openly admitted their religious motivation in opposing Mitt Romney and confessed that no matter how conservative any Mormon was, they would never vote for one for President of the USA. When the Pope died, I don't think any Mormon poster posted anything unkind, yet the thread about the passing of our President recently needed many comments removed.

Nearly every thread having any connection with Mormons, or Utah winds up being hijacked by anti-Mormon activists who copy and paste the same false accusations over and over even when it has been clearly and factually pointed out to them on multiple occasions that they are bearing false witness against our faith. Everything possible is done by these activists to make FR a hostile place for Mormons, and for at least some of them, bashing Mormonism is all they do here. Their most recent project is trying to blur the fact that the polygamous FLDS is a separate and distinct religion from ours, just as Lutherans are a separate and distinct religion from Catholicism.

In our opinion, such poster do a great disservice to FR and to their fellow freepers by spreading disinformation and promoting hostility towards a people known for walking the walk of conservative values.

Why the moderators here don't see the behavior of these anti-Mormon activists as religion bashing is a mystery to us, but it is the moderators call to make and we respect their right to do so. That doesn't mean we have to be passive however. We have all spent many hours refuting the accusations leveled at our faith, but these wind up buried deep in a flood of comments, effectively shouting us down.

Recently some of us have decided to take a more proactive approach. Rather than try to wrestle the pig into taking a bath, we are just going to hose it down. We will actively define our faith here rather than just respond to accusations.

So expect to see lots of Mormon threads, now and for as long as we see fit to keep posting them (although probably not as many as there are Catholic threads). They will be about our basic doctrines and responses to common accusations. If you want to know what our faith is about, read the articles we post. We will post them as open threads and I encourage you to compare the difference in tone and spirit between what we post and what our critics say.

“I don’t know who or what you worship, but I worship the God of Abraham, and of Issac, and of Jacob.

Which in the bible is referred to as Jehovah (or Yahwah), found in the KJV as LORD (usually with small capital letters - to differentiate it from another english word - Lord in mixed case and a different hebrew word). This is clear in the following verse:
Ge 17:1 And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD (Jehovah) appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God ('el Shadday); walk before me, and be thou perfect.

Mormons teach that this is the pre-incarnation name and reference of Christ. This becomes important in the following:

The almighty God of Israel, whose only begotten son suffered, and died atoning for my sins, was buried and arose on the third day, this my Savior, my Lord, my God

So, according to DU's statement of faith, this same Jehovah/Jesus begat himself as Jesus and that they worship Jesus (see the context of Gen 17:1 where Jehovah and 'el Shadday are names for the same singular God). Of course, DU is being a little defective in the proper naming of which particular god of mormonism he is referring to here, because to do so with out the garb of standard Christian terminology, the average reader would be quickly turned off. What standard terminology? The usage of standard Trinitarian references to God to hide mormon polytheism.

What? Polytheism! Yes dear friend, polytheism, the same polytheism that gets mormons wrapped around the axle to the point that they themselves argue if they worship the father god or the god jesus. Their confusion isn't helped by the fact that they were taught for nearly 100 years that Adam was the father god. So what do they believe?

Mormonism teaches that there are many gods
Joseph Smith, the founder of Mormonism, stated, "I wish to declare I have always and in all congregations when I have preached on the subject of the Deity, it has been the plurality of Gods" (History of the Church 6:474).

God is an exalted human being.
Joseph Smith declared, "God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens!" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 345). Thus according to mormon theology - there are uncountable gods out there.

Is not immutable
That is, the mormon god(s) are always changing. In another thread here at FR mormons are cited as being pleased that god sins.

The mormon god(s) are not eternal
"We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity. I (Joseph Smith) will refute that idea, and take away the veil, so that you may see" (Teachings, pg. 345).

Mormonism teaches that God is not Spirit (John 4:24)
Joseph Smith taught, "The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man's" (D&C 130:22).

These are but a few of the characteristics of the gods of mormonism. Stripped way from the mormon redefined Christian terminology this becomes very apparent. The True God of the Bible (God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit) told Israel not to have any other gods before them. To believe in another god(s) is a form of idolatry. To insist on following the God of the Mormon Church will result in spiritual death, a painful separation from the Creator for all eternity.

Next lurkers and interested readers out there, consider the follow from DU -

ANYONE WHO DENIES MY WITNESS DOES SO AT HIS OR HER ETERNAL PERIL.

And this

Try as I might, I cannot find the word "Hell" in your quotation of my words. I do speak of eternal peril, but you assumed the "Hell" it's just not there. I do not propose to explain to lurkers why I didn't use the words I didn't use.

I think that with the semantic game played to hide mormonism's polytheism make it clear as to the strong inference (in all CAPITOL letters to boot) that common sense would interpret ETERNAL PERIL is what - paradise? a trip to disney land? No, in common Judeo-Christian usage here in America, eternal peril is a reference to hell. Word usage to avoid negative responses by readers does not negate the obvious intent of the passage and its context. Notice too, that in replying, DU fails to define what he really meant when he used that phrase - which apparently means a lot to him since he shouted it. If DU doesn't propose to explain to lurkers the words he doesn't use, at least he can define the words he DOES USE. At least his prophets and church leaders were clear about Christians

“Believers in the doctrines of modern Christendom will reap damnation to their souls.”
- Apostle Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, see pp. 45-46

"...all the priests who adhere to the sectarian religions of the day with all their followers, without one exception, receive their portion with the devil and his angels."
- Prophet Joseph Smith, Jr. , The Elders Journal, v. 1, no. 4, p. 60

(note to the complainers - I didn't post the photo here)

Makes a fellow wanna...

2 Nephi 3:12 Wherefore, the fruit of thy loins write; and the fruit of thy loins of Judah shall write; and that which shall be written by the fruit of thy loins, and also that which shall be written by the fruit of thy loins of Judah, shall grow together,

2 Nephi 3:18 And the Lord said unto me also: I will raise up unto the fruit of thy loins; and I will make for him a spokesman. And I, behold, I will give unto him that he shall write the writing of the fruit of thy loins, unto the fruit of thy loins; and the spokesman of thy loins shall declare it.

Joseph Smith Translation Gen. 50: 27 Thus saith the Lord God of my fathers unto me, A choice seer will I raise up out of the fruit of thy loins, and he shall be esteemed highly among the fruit of thy loins; and unto him will I give commandment that he shall do a work for the fruit of thy loins, his brethren.

Joseph Smith Translation Gen. 50: 31 Wherefore the fruit of thy loins shall write, and the fruit of thy loins of Judah shall write; and that which shall be written by the fruit of thy loins, and also that which shall be written by the fruit of thy loins of Judah, shall grow together

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I would say Joe was into fruit......and loins.
And, this too....

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