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Vatican Clarifies Holy Days and '62 MissalCatholic Caucus)
Zenit ^ | 4/30/2008 | n/a

Posted on 05/01/2008 8:46:47 AM PDT by Pyro7480

LONDON, APRIL 30, 2008 (Zenit.org).- The Vatican clarified the celebration of holy days of obligation when celebrating the extraordinary form of the Roman rite according to the 1962 Missal, reported the bishops' conference of England and Wales.

The episcopal conference submitted a query to the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei, which confirmed that in the Roman rite, whichever form of the liturgy is being celebrated, the holy days of obligation are to be held in common.

Where the obligation has been removed and the holy day transferred to the Sunday, this is to be followed in both ordinary and extraordinary celebrations of Mass, the pontifical commission clarified.

Catholics are obliged to go to Mass on holy days of obligation. Some holy days of obligation vary according to the decisions made by local episcopal conferences.

There are differences in the calendars corresponding to the extraordinary and ordinary forms of the Mass, with many feast days falling on different dates in the two missals.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Worship
KEYWORDS: holydays; tlm; vatican
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The link given after the story on Zenit doesn't have a copy of the reply from the Ecclesia Dei Commission.

Also, Alcuin Reed's commentary on this decision should be read. It can be read (along with Fr. Z's comments about it) at Alcuin Reid on the transfer of feasts in the Traditional Roman calendar to Sundays

1 posted on 05/01/2008 8:46:47 AM PDT by Pyro7480
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To: Siobhan; Canticle_of_Deborah; NYer; Salvation; american colleen; Desdemona; StAthanasiustheGreat; ..

Catholic ping!


2 posted on 05/01/2008 8:50:49 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If the angels could be jealous of men, they would be so for one reason: Holy Communion." -M. Kolbe)
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To: Religion Moderator

There’s a typo in the thread title. Could you please fix it? Thanks in advance!


3 posted on 05/01/2008 9:14:44 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If the angels could be jealous of men, they would be so for one reason: Holy Communion." -M. Kolbe)
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To: Pyro7480; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

Today is Ascension Thursday. It is a Holy Day of Obligation, be it in the Novus Ordo or the TLM, right?


4 posted on 05/01/2008 9:57:13 AM PDT by NYer (Jesus whom I know as my Redeemer cannot be less than God. - St. Athanasius)
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To: NYer

Not in my archdiocese.


5 posted on 05/01/2008 10:06:32 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: NYer; Miss Marple
The Thursday of the sixth week of Easter, the Solemnity of the Ascension, is a Holy Day of Obligation, but my understanding is that the local Ordinary has the authority to direct that it be celebrated on the following Sunday. I am open to correction here.
6 posted on 05/01/2008 10:17:21 AM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: aposiopetic

You’re correct. For us, it is this coming Sunday.


7 posted on 05/01/2008 10:39:04 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: NYer

I think it depends on the Archdiocese. In my Archdiocese, the Ascension was moved to this Sunday, and the obligation removed for today.


8 posted on 05/01/2008 10:52:05 AM PDT by murron (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: Pyro7480

Well, I don’t know how this will all play out in the future, but as for today...my family just returned home from an Ascension Thursday TLM celebrated in the diocese of Rockville Centre (Long Island).

Regards,


9 posted on 05/01/2008 11:12:20 AM PDT by VermiciousKnid
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To: VermiciousKnid

Just phoned my parish and they said they had never heard of it. They have it as St. Joseph the Worker.


10 posted on 05/01/2008 12:10:24 PM PDT by Appleby
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To: Appleby
They never heard of the Ascension????
11 posted on 05/01/2008 12:13:31 PM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Appleby

Are you on Long Island, Appleby? If so, the TLM is offered every Sunday (and HDO) at St. Matthew’s parish chapel in Dix Hills (North Service Road of the LIE between Commack Rd. and Deer Park Rd. — Exits 52 and 51). Mass begins at 9:00.

Next Sunday will be a Low Mass at St. Matthew’s.

Regards,

PS: The TLM is also offered every Sunday and HDO at the St. Pius X chapel in Uniondale. I believe this Mass is at 11:00 (possibly 11:30).


12 posted on 05/01/2008 12:15:32 PM PDT by VermiciousKnid
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To: Pyro7480

Darn!! I was hoping we’d be able to get a Feast of the Assumption for ‘09 (August 15th is a Saturday)


13 posted on 05/01/2008 12:27:23 PM PDT by Cheverus
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To: pgkdan

I read him the post and he said it was news to him. Go figure. (We didn’t have the Divine Mercy Sunday that y’all talked about either.)


14 posted on 05/01/2008 12:27:38 PM PDT by Appleby
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To: Appleby

Zenit was actually just quoting a quote, and nobody has seen the original question or answer, to my knoweldge. Zenit is, for some reason, very anti-TLM, so take it with a grain of salt and wait for a more detailed explanation.


15 posted on 05/01/2008 2:35:57 PM PDT by livius
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To: NYer; All

Yes, TODAY is the Feast of the Ascension. But as for the Holy Day of Obligation part, here’s where our illustrious bishops have again given clear teaching to the faithful (sarc). Some of the U.S. bishops have waived the mass attendance obligation for today and “moved” the holy day to Sunday, but others have not. It seems mostly dioceses in the western parts of the U.S. have decided Christ ascended into Heaven 43 days days after the Resurrection, not 40.


16 posted on 05/01/2008 3:00:49 PM PDT by baa39
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To: VermiciousKnid

May I ask what parish? Thanks.


17 posted on 05/01/2008 3:02:35 PM PDT by baa39
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To: Appleby

Are you referring to your parish priest, in a Catholic church!?! Or some ignorant volunteer covering the office phone? If this is your pastor, you might like to give him a gift subscription to the Wanderer, and quick.


18 posted on 05/01/2008 3:09:11 PM PDT by baa39
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To: baa39

The TLM is offered every Sunday (and HDO) at St. Matthew’s parish chapel in Dix Hills (North Service Road of the LIE between Commack Rd. and Deer Park Rd. — Exits 52 and 51). Mass begins at 9:00.

Next Sunday will be a Low Mass at St. Matthew’s.

Regards,


19 posted on 05/01/2008 4:45:15 PM PDT by VermiciousKnid
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To: NYer

Today is Ascension Thursday.

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In my diocese, it has been moved to next Sunday.


20 posted on 05/01/2008 6:12:07 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Tagline is in the shop -- being retooled as a hybrid.)
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