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United Methodists OK Full Communion with Lutherans
Christian Post ^ | 4/30/8 | Lillian Kwon

Posted on 04/30/2008 3:03:34 PM PDT by SmithL

United Methodists declared Monday a "banner day" as they approved a full communion agreement with the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America.

The new relationship between the two major Protestant denominations is not a merger but a recognition of each other's ministry and mission. Full communion recognizes that each church has "the one, holy, catholic and apostolic faith" expressed in the Scriptures and confessed in historic creeds and the core teachings of each denomination.

The two churches also recognize the authenticity of each other's baptism and eucharist and the full interchangeability of all ordained ministers.

"It's not merger," said Bishop Melvin Talbert, co-chairman of the United Methodist-ELCA dialogue team. "It means we are open to receiving and accepting and acknowledging each other's ministries."

Although not a merger, ELCA Presiding Bishop Mark Hanson hopes the full communion will foster a deeper relationship and ecumenical cooperation as the two churches focus more on how to do things together rather than separately.

The United Methodists' approval for communion comes after 30 years of theological dialogue. Since 2005, the two churches have encouraged members to pray for and support each other, to study Scripture together and to learn about each other's traditions.

Noting that fruit has finally come, Hanson told Methodists on Tuesday, "This is why we, as the ELCA, and you, as The United Methodist Church, vote on full communion - because we believe together we might more imaginatively, evangelically, prophetically and abundantly bear fruit for the sake of the Gospel and the life of the world," according to the United Methodist News Service.

Hanson, who also serves as president of the Lutheran World Federation, spoke during the Tuesday morning worship at the United Methodist General Conference, which takes place every four years, in Fort Worth.

In a rootless, restless world, Christians "have a powerful testimony to give," and good news to share, Hanson told UMC delegates.

"I am the vine, you are the branches. I have loved you the way my Father has loved me. You didn't choose me, remember: I chose you," the ELCA head said as he cited the good news of Jesus.

And although a more self-help, feel-good gospel may be more palatable in today's religious marketplace, Hanson stressed that the radical Gospel of Christ is all that is needed.

"Lives rooted in Christ the vine will bear fruit," he said.

The ELCA already has five full communion relationships with The Episcopal Church, the Moravian Church in America, Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), Reformed Church in America and United Church of Christ.

The United Methodist Church just entered dialogue with The Episcopal Church but the agreement with the ELCA is its first full communion relationship outside the Methodist tradition.

Bishop Frank Brookhart, co-chairman of the United Methodist-Episcopal dialogue, thus described the Methodists' approval on Monday as "a miracle."

"It's real easy for churches to separate. It's real hard to get back together," he explained. "This doesn't happen without the risen Christ among us."

The ELCA is expected to vote on full communion with the UMC at its assembly in August 2009.

The ELCA is the largest Lutheran denomination in the country with 4.8 million members. The United Methodist is the largest Protestant mainline denomination with nearly 8 million members in the United States. BACK TO TOP Print E-m


TOPICS: Mainline Protestant; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: christians; ecusa; elca; lutheran; methodists; pcusa; umc; unity
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Bishop Mark Hanson of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (left) and United Methodist Bishop William Oden sing a hymn during April 29 morning worship at the 2008 United Methodist General Conference in Fort Worth, Texas.
1 posted on 04/30/2008 3:03:36 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: lightman

ELCA picks another liberal partner.


2 posted on 04/30/2008 3:05:00 PM PDT by SmithL (Reject Obama's Half-Vast Wright-Wing Conspiracy)
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To: SmithL
United Methodists OK Full Communion with Lutherans

Not with this Lutheran, or the millions like me.

3 posted on 04/30/2008 3:08:09 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (LCMS pastor)
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To: Charles Henrickson
I left the Lutheran church (ELCA) this year. It was a difficult decision for I left many friends behind, it took me years to make the move until ...

the ELCA voted to allow homosexuals to be pastors, that was it for me.

4 posted on 04/30/2008 3:17:51 PM PDT by Las Vegas Dave ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, June 2004.)
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To: SmithL
And although a more self-help, feel-good gospel may be more palatable in today's religious marketplace, Hanson stressed that the radical Gospel of Christ is all that is needed.

Kind of ironic coming from ELCA.

5 posted on 04/30/2008 3:20:36 PM PDT by workerbee (Ladies do not start fights, but they can finish them.)
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To: workerbee

The only part about that statement I believe is the radical part. ELCA loves radicals, communist radicals, homosexual radicals, abortionist radicals.


6 posted on 04/30/2008 3:25:25 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: SmithL
Despite the happy talk about bearing fruit, the article does not mention the fact that all of these liberal denominations are losing membership.

And what would a liberal church conference be without the requisite hate screed against Israel and support for Islamic terrorism?:

http://www.unitedmethodistdivestment.com/

7 posted on 04/30/2008 3:27:28 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: SmithL

Two liberals joining together in communion.....I hope they pause and reflect on the sins their churches not only endorse but celebrate.


8 posted on 04/30/2008 3:33:13 PM PDT by Kimmers
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To: Las Vegas Dave
I was confirmed in the ELCA and after marriage joined the liberal Presbyterian church PCUSA.......I then joined a non-denom church which is bible based. I have never learned so much or hungered to learn more....

It is hard to leave a church, there are a lot of emotional ties and the friendships formed. I hope you can find a church and I would not be surprised some of your friends will eventually join you... I wish you well

9 posted on 04/30/2008 3:41:26 PM PDT by Kimmers
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To: iowamark

That’s the beauty. Now each can count the other denomination in its numbers and pretend they are GROWING. The Methodists have been homosexual haven for years. Jeff Smith, the Frugal Gourmet, was a Methodist minister and predator of adolescent boys. A good friend of mine was assaulted by a Methodist minister. UMC and ELCA condone same sex relationships, divorce, and abortion. One Holy, Apostolic Church they are not.


10 posted on 04/30/2008 3:42:22 PM PDT by informavoracious (God BLESS America)
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To: informavoracious

One Holy Apostolic=One, Holy, CATHOLIC, and Apostolic


11 posted on 04/30/2008 3:49:57 PM PDT by informavoracious (God BLESS America)
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To: iowamark
I love this picture they are using. A dove of peace shot out of the sky. Probably by a Pali bullet.


12 posted on 04/30/2008 5:13:53 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Democrats - Stupid is as stupid do)
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To: SmithL
Oh, what a surprise, two apostate denominations join hands. Yeah, just shocking. Now they can push their liberation theology and progessive agenda together.

Come out from among them and be ye separate.

13 posted on 04/30/2008 5:17:33 PM PDT by Boagenes (I'm your huckleberry, that's just my game.)
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To: lightman

ping


14 posted on 04/30/2008 7:10:09 PM PDT by aberaussie
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To: SmithL

“ELCA picks another liberal partner.”

UMC effectively merging with the ELCA...
just trying to stave off the inevitable.

Just like when Studebaker merged with Packard.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studebaker#Merger_with_Packard


15 posted on 04/30/2008 7:15:42 PM PDT by VOA
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To: VeniVidiVici

“A dove of peace shot out of the sky. Probably by a Pali bullet.”

Likely a bullet purchased with $$$ from some UMC or ELCA charity for
the oppressed freedom fighters of the world.

Fired from one of the M-16s Bill Clinton gave to The Palestinian Authority
on behalf of The American People.


16 posted on 04/30/2008 7:18:45 PM PDT by VOA
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To: SmithL; lightman

I’ll venture a guess that the “communion” spoken of here between the UMC and the ELCA is not of the sort I might recognize as an Orthodox Christian.

With all due respect, this is really rather silly and more than a little pathetic.


17 posted on 04/30/2008 7:21:56 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: aberaussie; Aeronaut; AlternateViewpoint; AnalogReigns; Archie Bunker on steroids; Arrowhead1952; ..


Lutheran (ELCA) Ping!

Alleluia! Christ ascends to shouts of joy!

18 posted on 04/30/2008 7:56:41 PM PDT by lightman (Waiting for Godot and searching for Avignon.)
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To: Kolokotronis

Particularly since on a practical level many UM’s are Zwinglian in Eucharistic theology and Baptist/revivalist in soteriology.


19 posted on 04/30/2008 8:02:33 PM PDT by lightman (Waiting for Godot and searching for Avignon.)
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To: SmithL

Seeing how both are bleeding members I guess something had to be done.


20 posted on 05/01/2008 12:14:01 AM PDT by Gamecock ("I find your lack of faith-disturbing" Darth Vader)
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