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A Testimony to God's Grace [ex-nun's true story]
Catholic concerns ^ | October 2003 | Mary Ann Collins (A Former Catholic Nun)

Posted on 03/27/2008 10:33:22 AM PDT by Gamecock

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To: trisham; Petronski
Grazie trisham! :-D

Petronski - you are absolutely right - she is a liar, and I too doubt she exists. But, even with bold-faced lies, I like to correct them. Keeps me in fightin' weight, so to speak. ;-)

61 posted on 03/27/2008 3:24:30 PM PDT by thefrankbaum
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To: thefrankbaum
:)

Welcome!

62 posted on 03/27/2008 3:25:50 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Petronski

“She’s a liar.”

She certainly is. There would be no reason at all not to name her Order.

Look, there are only so many Orders and so many Mother Houses. It would be very simple to name the Order. Even if she left under less than happy circumstances, I should think to provide some veracity to the story, she would.

She doesn’t.


63 posted on 03/27/2008 3:30:24 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Petronski

This got debunked faster than a Dan Rather memo.
Another fake but accurate hit piece from the usual suspects.


64 posted on 03/27/2008 3:52:46 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: OpusatFR; Petronski
from the article ...

“”There was a prayer that had a major impact on my life, but I don't remember the exact words””

This shows that whoever wrote this article must be very confused ,thus influenced of a demonic spirit.

65 posted on 03/27/2008 3:53:16 PM PDT by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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To: Gamecock; Dr. Eckleburg
October 2003

Is this the best you can come up with?!!! BTW - this old story was already posted to the forum ... probably back in 2003.

Good try though.

66 posted on 03/27/2008 3:53:20 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: maryz

Thank you for your thoughtful reply.


68 posted on 03/27/2008 4:07:57 PM PDT by BlueDragon (here's the thing; do recognize the bell of truth when you here it ring, c'mon and sing it children)
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To: Gamecock

As a Catholic I rejoice that she is now able to love and serve the Lord with all her heart, mind and soul. May her zeal for the faith enrich the lives of all those she encounters. May her life be a testament to the saving power of Our Lord.


69 posted on 03/27/2008 4:07:58 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: IrishCatholic
I make a joke, and you reply with; ???

In light of your above response, and taking a peek at your home page, I see that you don't quite measure up to the claims you make there. You may need to edit, or revamp it somewhat, in the interests of being honest.

Let me know if you need any help with specific portions that could stand some updating.

70 posted on 03/27/2008 4:16:53 PM PDT by BlueDragon (here's the thing; do recognize the bell of truth when you here it ring, c'mon and sing it children)
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To: Gamecock
As I learned more about the Bible, I began to realize that some Catholic teachings are contrary to Scripture.

God Bless her. It has to be so hard to break from a church that teaches it has exclusivity to God and interpretation of the Scriptures.

71 posted on 03/27/2008 4:48:55 PM PDT by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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To: Gamecock
I believe in the three "solas" of the Protestant Reformation.

It looks like she hasn't quite finished her journey.

72 posted on 03/27/2008 4:50:33 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: thefrankbaum

“As I learned more about the Bible, I began to realize that some Catholic teachings are contrary to Scripture.”

“With NO elaboration?”

She elaborates quite a bit on that statement in the article titled “Hunting Heretics”, which opens thusly:

Augustine lived from 354 to 430 A.D. He had a vision of an ideal society, with the Roman Catholic Church at its center, governing all aspects of human life. His ideal society required conformity in belief and practice. Augustine taught that it was right and necessary for the Catholic Church to make this happen, even if it meant coercing people to comply. This laid the theological foundation for persecuting “heretics” and for the Inquisition. [Note 1]

For over a thousand years, the Roman Catholic Church hunted down “heretics” and killed them. Some of these “heretics” were people with strange beliefs. But, as we shall see later, many of them were Bible-believing Christians.

Jesus predicted that true Christians would be persecuted and killed. He told His disciples,

“Yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.” (John 16:2)

For the Roman Catholic Church, “heresy” means to “obstinately” doubt or deny any official Catholic doctrine. [Note 2] Doctrines which have often been disputed include the authority of the Pope, purgatory, indulgences, the veneration of Mary and the saints, and transubstantiation (the doctrine that the body, blood, soul and divinity of Jesus Christ are fully present in every fragment of consecrated bread).

Some Catholic doctrines seem to conflict with the plain meaning of Scripture. As a result, people who read the Bible for themselves are likely to doubt or dispute those doctrines. One way of solving that problem is to prevent laymen from reading the Bible. The Catholic Church took that approach for hundreds of years.

Starting about 1080, there were many incidents where scholars wanted to translate the Bible into the language of the common people, but it was forbidden by the Pope, Church councils, or individual bishops. [Note 3] William Tyndale was burned as a “heretic” because he translated the Bible into English. [Note 4] People were burned as “heretics” for owning or reading his translation. [Note 5]

For centuries, Christians were forbidden to possess the Scriptures in any language, including Latin. Reading the Bible was considered to be proof that someone was a heretic. Men and women were burned at the stake for reading the Bible in Latin. [Note 6]

With the Protestant Reformation, the Bible was translated into English, German, and other languages. With the invention of the printing press, Bibles became so plentiful that they could no longer be suppressed. That is why people like us, who are not Latin scholars, are able to read the Bible today.


You can read the entire article here: http://www.catholicconcerns.com/Heretics.html


73 posted on 03/27/2008 5:00:14 PM PDT by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: BlueDragon

LOL.


74 posted on 03/27/2008 5:51:21 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg

Thanks for providing the website. Looks like lots of solid information.


75 posted on 03/27/2008 5:52:50 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Gamecock

Thanks thanks.

I know there are tons leaving the . . . nutty cultishness of the RC edifice every week . . . particularly in South America . . . but one wouldn’t know it from the postings on FR. Nice to see something on the other side for a change! LOL.


77 posted on 03/27/2008 7:59:02 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Agreed.


78 posted on 03/27/2008 7:59:45 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg
It's good to see "she" has some arguments - I was worried it was completely baseless.

That said, and it's 11pm and I don't have time to get into the depth of the article (and I think it only proper if you wish to discuss it among the members of FR that you might post it as its own thread, rather than a subset of this existing one), I just want to point out one thing that really jumped out at me.

Doctrines which have often been disputed include the authority of the Pope, purgatory, indulgences, the veneration of Mary and the saints, and transubstantiation (the doctrine that the body, blood, soul and divinity of Jesus Christ are fully present in every fragment of consecrated bread).

So were the doctrines of the Antinomianism (belief that faith in Christ excepted people from moral law), Gnosticism, Arianism, and the filoque clause - one that seperates the Church from the Orthodox today. Just because something is disputed doesn't mean the Church is wrong - I think all Protestants would agree Antinomianism is a heretical doctrine (I may be wrong), but for awhile many thought otherwise.

Now, I've got a lot going on tomorrow, so I won't elaborate further (no time or energy) - but, if you decide to post the article as its own thread, please ping me to it and I'll do my best to discuss. G'nite!

79 posted on 03/27/2008 8:14:10 PM PDT by thefrankbaum
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To: Gamecock; IrishCatholic
Jack Chick material is not allowed on this forum at all because it is hate mongering material.

Websites which include links to Jack Chick material are also not allowed, much like we do not allow websites that link to KKK, Aryan Nations, National Alliance, VDare, etc.

80 posted on 03/27/2008 8:49:34 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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