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To: Dr. Eckleburg

You wrote:

“I do not believe the U.S. had the same “malevolent intent” some people assign to Pacelli for the glaring reason that the blood of 400,000 Americans was shed on foreign soil to undo much of the evil Pacelli and men like him facilitated.”

That’s completely off the wall.

1) Pius XII wasn’t even pope until 6 years after Hitler came to power.

2) Whether Hitler murdered Jews or not we would have fought him simply because he declared war on us.

3) The US really didn’t care that much what happened to millions of East Europena Jews. Sad, but true.

“While hundreds of thousands of Americans were dying in Europe and Japan, Pius XII still managed to dine well and sleep peacefully.”

No, actually while the US was fighting a war against Hitler (because he declared war on us and ONLY because he declared war on us) Pius XII was saving more than 800,000 Jews, including thousands in Rome itself and in his home whom he fed, clothed and protected. Pius XII even insisted that the Jewish refugees be fed kosher food! If he slept well it was the sleep of those with a clear conscience.

While American soldiers were fighting the Nazis, Pius XII was targeted by Hitler for kidnapping or assassination. And yet he had no great army to defend him! I think Gor and the prayers of the faithful protected Pius XII. Hitler hated him, wanted to kill him and could easily have done so, but Pius XII survived to aid even more people after the Nazis were chased out of Rome.


934 posted on 03/19/2008 5:11:12 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: vladimir998; Lord_Calvinus; wmfights; Quix; 1000 silverlings; blue-duncan; Gamecock; Alex Murphy; ..
The US really didn't care that much what happened to millions of East Europena Jews. Sad, but true.

Wow. And they say Obama has a problem with his conspiracy-minded pastor.

Pius XII was saving more than 800,000 Jews

A number pulled from the ether. It is fiction. Quix says he saved 300,000 and blue-duncan another 250,000 (his numbers are lower since he was busy writing the Magna Carta).

Disprove it.

Pius XII was targeted by Hitler for kidnapping or assassination.

Lucky for Pacelli, we know what bad shots those nazis were. If Hitler wanted you dead, you had a pretty good chance of surviving. If you were a sympathizer, that is, and not a Jew.

And yet he had no great army to defend him!

Obviously, Pacelli didn't need an army. He not only survived; he THRIVED into decrepitude!

Hitler hated him, wanted to kill him and could easily have done so

"Easily?" That really begs the question.

Why didn't Hitler kill Pacelli? Why are there no stories about death threats or evil plots against Pacelli, etc., if Hitler hated him so much?

The answer is obvious. Pacelli was a willing and useful tool in the hands of national socialism. He was protected.

Oh, dear! Now we've gone and exposed another hole in the story. I suppose we should prepare ourselves for some "long-lost documents" that will soon emerge which reveal "for the first time anywhere" intricate death threats made against the slumbering Pacelli by all those inept nazis he saluted.

979 posted on 03/19/2008 10:42:43 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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