Posted on 03/15/2008 10:17:55 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper
More than once during these talks I referred to Luther and what always occurred to me as his destructive influence. I pointed out that even in such an admirable book as Rohan Butler's The Roots of National Socialism the spiritual origins of Nazism and Luther's influence had not been given the necessary importance. Then I was asked if I would be prepared to elaborate to themabout a dozen of the very senior boys, that ismy own views on Luther and Lutheranism. I agreedwith the proviso that they would be my own views and nothing else. Admittedly, I had read more on Luther and about Luther than on most other subjects. But I wanted to make it quite clear that I would not speak to them with the voice of a great authority, but would merely give them my own interpretation. I told them, moreover, that I should try to prove how dangerous it is to accept legends; and that the picture I had of Luther and his influence was thoroughly contradictory of the customary Luther of the legend.
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You betcha!
I’m outta here.
Hey, Happy Palm Sunday to one and all!
Jesus Christ is Lord!
The cartoons look different than Jack Chick’s but aren’t they the same in characterization and character assassination?
Who denies Hitler was born a Catholic?
Got a link?
The Pope's authority comes from God, not from the number of people who listen to him.
Christ was down to one Apostle and some women by Friday afternoon. He was still the God of the universe, not an "empty suit".
I have previously read everything that Luther had to say about Jews.
Luther thought that the reformation of the church would allow Jews to see Christianity properly presented, and that that would cause them to turn to their Messiah. Luther was very disappointed. He then saw Paul’s admonition that Judaism is an “enemy of the gospel.”
To suggest that Luther’s disappointment would in any manner have him condone Hitler’s contempt for and rejection of the scripture is utter prejudice and total ignorance of what Luther represented.
As already stated....Godwin’s Law rules regarding this article.
BTW, I am NOT a Lutheran.
You wrote:
“If nobody responded than he would be exposed as an empty suit.”
No, those who refused to respond would be exposed as faithless.
Apparently Cornwell is all the evidence we’re allowed. Yad Vashem, Lapide, Golda Meir, et al. . . . denied.
And a blessed Palm Sunday to you!
But they feel so good inside. Everybody knows that besmirching the Body of Christ is so much the rage.
And thus we agree, the figure of "860,000 Jews saved by Pacelli" is not historically supported except by the comments of an Israeli consul to Milan.
“As a Baptist we have a decentralized structure and are organized in associations. Thus any national figure really does not have any power over individual churches so you can usually find us on both sides of every issue.”
Oh yes, the land of 26,000 interpretations and denominations...with 26,000 answers lol.
Godwin’s Law?
You think you can brush this all aside with “Godwin’s Law?”
Good grief, man: facts are facts. If you apply Godwin’s Law in this way, no historian can ever assess responsibility for Nazism ever again.
Godwin’s Law applies in discussions of Ford v. Chevy, Vanilla v. Chocolate, Dallas v. Green Bay, liberal v. conservative, linux v. windows, etc. It cannot apply to the study of WWII, or the history of that time disappears in a black hole of logical paradox.
I agree.
The thing to do is learn from it. We can argue theology till the cows come home, but we should be united when the forces of evil are approaching.
Mind you, I can certainly understand why adherents to the Traditions of Men like Luther would want that.
But it is not to be.
That is one of Cornwell's lies.
And thus we agree, the figure of "860,000 Jews saved by Pacelli" is not historically supported except by the comments of an Israeli consul to Milan.
And that is one of your lies.
There is no righteousness other than the imputed righteousness that is ours through the sacrifice of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Let all who wish to trust their own righteousness go ahead and take that stand.
As for me, I recognize my utter sinfulness and my absolute need for mercy. Without mercy I am lost. Others might want to get there another way, but I'm sticking with the way of Grace. It's my only hope.
It is by Grace that I have been saved through faith.
That's a complete, 100%, absolute, reprehensible, lie.
He had the usual access to the Vatican Archives that any scholar can get by asking for it. According to the logbook, he was there a few times over a period of three weeks. Whoopee.
And when he was publicly challenged by Ronald Rychlak on what he had discovered in the archives, all he could come up with was a juvenile titter about Pius XII's alleged love affair with his housekeeper.
That's the joker you've hitched your star to.
You really DO intend to rob Lapide of claim to be a “reputable historian.”
You are an enemy of truth.
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