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Mormonism increasingly draws Spanish-speakers as converts
Arizona Daily Star ^
| March 8, 2008
| Stephanie Innes
Posted on 03/08/2008 5:14:33 PM PST by Zakeet
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To: Rameumptom
You can pray and ask God why he plans to have priests officiating in the last days, according to the bible.
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Why not just run the scriptures in the Bible...
What are they ????
To: conservativegramma
Galatians 1:9 - As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. This verse indicates that anyone who preaches a different Gospel might be the sons of perdition you speak of. Hint: That would be the LDS. I believe it is you who is preaching another Gospel where is the Nicene Creed in the Bible?
BTW Read read Gal 1 again it is talking about current events like 50AD not about 1820 AD.
Not all angels are bad many are from the Lord.
Rev. 14
6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel(Book of Mormon) to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
702
posted on
03/14/2008 11:34:51 AM PDT
by
restornu
(Elsie OCD does seem communicable.....)
To: Rameumptom
"Blasphemy by definition is treating the name of God in an irreverent manner." That's exactly what claiming to be a "Melchizedek priest" does. Christ being the only one, trying to supplant His office is quite irreverent.
"You still haven't answered why jesus would call himself after a man."
Umm... what?
703
posted on
03/14/2008 11:41:21 AM PDT
by
Enosh
(†)
To: Enosh
and I thought you knew the Bible...
704
posted on
03/14/2008 11:44:49 AM PDT
by
restornu
(Elsie OCD does seem communicable.....)
To: Godzilla; fproy2222
You do realize that some of the Theophanies in the Bible refer to Jesus, as himself at one point and to him as an angel in another. Angel in Hebrew merely means messenger. The Hebrew translation is mal'ach, meaning "messenger." Jesus describes himself as a messenger of the Father in Malchi 3:1
Paul describes his theophany differently at different times as well. Seeing as how the Prophet/Apostle Paul did it I don't fault the Prophet/Apostle Joseph Smith for doing it as well. Joseph Smith's theophany of God and Jesus matches Stephen's in Acts 7:55-56 who saw Jesus standing on the right hand of God.
What is realy interesting is the Book of Abraham (mormon scripture) refers to Jesus as the "angel of the Lord's presence" at one point. Which was a way to refer to him in early post apostlic Christianity as well. It's too bad many modern Christian's no longer refer to him by that name even thought their Fathers did. Joseph Smith restored truths about Christ which had been lost. The mormon (restorationist) claim is really not that different than the protestant (reformationsist) claim that the Catholics (originalists) lost the truth. Who you believe and which way you interpret it is up to you. but I believe in the Theophany of Jospeh Smith just as I believe the theophany of Paul. If you choose not to believe as I do that is fine with me.
705
posted on
03/14/2008 11:48:44 AM PDT
by
Rameumptom
(Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
To: restornu; colorcountry; conservativegrandma
Who am I too stick my nose in their meetings and tell them they need to follow my way and if they dont I will speak ill of them...
some here think it is their right to scorn others into submission to their beleif or else!
I know the differents from the provocateurs here and what the Church really said in context OH, REALLY?
From Joseph Smith to Brigham Young to Heber Kimball to Orson Pratt to Bruce Mcconkie to Gordon Hinckley, your mormon leaders have scorned others' beliefs and uttered provocative statements.
Those who try to claim scorn of others should read the statements of these leaders, SAID IN CONTEXT.
I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in His sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.
He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, mother inquired what the matter was. I replied, Never mind, all is wellI am well enough off. I then said to my mother, I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.
Prophet Joseph Smith, Jr., Joseph SmithHistory, v. 1, pp. 826
"With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world."
- Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 8, p. 199
"Christiansthose poor, miserable priests brother Brigham was speaking aboutsome of them are the biggest whoremasters there are on the earth, and at the same time preaching righteousness to the children of men.
Apostle Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses, v. 5, p. 89
"Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent."
- Apostle Orson Pratt, The Seer, p. 255
... all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ.... in large part the worship of apostate Christendom is performed in ignorance, as much so as was the worship of the Athenians who bowed the Unknown Gods.
- Apostle Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, pp. 269, 374-375
We accept that as a statement which came to him [Joseph Smith's vision in which he was told all other religions were "abominations"], which is printed, of course, and published in his history as a statement.
Prophet Gordon B. Hinckley, interview with Richard Ostling, as quoted in Mormon America, by Richard and Joan Ostling, p. 323
706
posted on
03/14/2008 11:53:32 AM PDT
by
greyfoxx39
(We need 2 pills, one to prevent cancer , one to prevent old age...HURRY! I am past 60!)
To: restornu; Rameumptom
Okay... where’s the candid camera?
707
posted on
03/14/2008 11:53:56 AM PDT
by
Enosh
(†)
To: restornu
Sure thing - and you still failed to respond or publicly denounce missionary activites of the LDS. Hmmmm........
To: fproy2222
I will not have time today to show others how most of you care not to understand what you are talking about. ohhhhh...nooooo!
709
posted on
03/14/2008 12:05:55 PM PDT
by
greyfoxx39
(We need 2 pills, one to prevent cancer , one to prevent old age...HURRY! I am past 60!)
To: Godzilla
Amateur!
710
posted on
03/14/2008 12:07:08 PM PDT
by
greyfoxx39
(We need 2 pills, one to prevent cancer , one to prevent old age...HURRY! I am past 60!)
To: restornu
Rev. 14
6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel(Book of Mormon) to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
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Resty,
1. The words (book of mormon) are not in that scripture
2. the book of mormon is NOT the “everlasting gospel”
And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. Revelation 14:6, 7
Nope nothing about the bom and the Angel never mentioned Joseph Smith...
But the Angel did say to worship God..to fear Him and give Glory to Him, not Joseph Smith...
Ooooooooo The Angel said that God made Heaven and Earth..
Hmmmm the Joseph Smith and the mormons missed that one...
They all claim that their heaven and Earth were here when their god was “made”...
Bad Karma...Big bad LIE.....
To: restornu; Enosh
and I thought you knew the Bible...
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and I know he knows the Bible...
:)
To: fproy2222
I have seen many discussions on the theology of Justification and Salvation. Many Protestants, in particular, tend to believe that the soul can be saved through Faith alone, Sola fide, and doing good works plays no part is Salvation. This is reinforced in particular by the books of the New Testament like Romans and Galatians.I see you did NOT do your own research, but used someone elses...
Otherwise it is an example of #7 on The LIST!
713
posted on
03/14/2008 12:10:31 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: fproy2222; Elsie
This is reinforced in particular by the books of the New Testament like Romans and Galatians.
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Since it is in the Bible, it is true...
No discussion...
To: greyfoxx39; restornu; fproy2222; colorcountry; conservativegramma
OH, REALLY? Have you noticed they never embrace their prophets? They always run from their statements, or pretend they never made those statements. If it is really bad, they claim that the scribe must have made an error in transcription. One apologist had the nerve to ask someone if the picture of the page from the Journal of Discourses was from their own copy, as if to imply that the picture of the page does not represent the actual words in the JoD. Well the JoD is online for anyone to peruse. Talk about disingenuousnesses!
They embrace their current prophet, but they basically pretend that all the prophets who went before this one were engaged in personal speculation when they declared their unique doctrines, even when they declared from the pulpit "Thus saith the Lord!"
It is a hard job being a Mormon apologist in light of all the "unusual" statements of their prophets and apostles.
715
posted on
03/14/2008 12:16:27 PM PDT
by
P-Marlowe
(LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
To: Godzilla
716
posted on
03/14/2008 12:18:59 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: restornu
BTW Read read Gal 1 again it is talking about current events like 50AD not about 1820 AD There is absolutely nothing contexturally within Gal 1:9 that would limit it to the first century.
Rev. 14 6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel(Book of Mormon) to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
Ah, must be that inspired JST, cause that insertion is not in any other bible.
717
posted on
03/14/2008 12:20:37 PM PDT
by
Godzilla
(Today's mighty oak tree is just yesterdays nut who held it's ground.)
To: Godzilla
When ARE you going to show us?You still misunderstand.
We do NOT answer your questions.
We ask YOU things.
--MormonDude(Understand?)
718
posted on
03/14/2008 12:21:46 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: restornu
Baloney sausage all will be saved unless they are the sons of perdition.Just HOW does one get to be a SoP??
719
posted on
03/14/2008 12:22:45 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: restornu
Are you against OSAS?Otherwise a classic "try to chance the subject" ploy.
720
posted on
03/14/2008 12:27:45 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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