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Archdiocese Cracks Down on St Stephen's Parish in Minneapolis (insiders look at their service)
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Posted on 03/04/2008 1:01:49 PM PST by NYer

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To: NYer

These people are so pathetic. It looks primarily like a gathering of the over-50 crowd (actually, over-60 might be a better fit) combined with the - er, “rainbow” crowd.

The sad thing was that they had a bishop that let this go on for decades, and even more so, that Rome let that bishop let it go on for decades. JPII may have been a lovely man, but he was no administrator and he left these horrible bishops in place to completely run wild over the Faith.


21 posted on 03/04/2008 3:21:53 PM PST by livius
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To: The Woim

Harmless?

(Shakes head)


22 posted on 03/04/2008 3:25:26 PM PST by AliVeritas (DEUS VULT - 0311)
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23 posted on 03/04/2008 3:29:25 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: NYer

No offense to some of my fellow FR’s, but I see a lot of whiteheads in the crowd. Some people just don’t understand that the 60’s ARE OVER!


24 posted on 03/04/2008 3:30:38 PM PST by Gerish (Feed your faith and your doubts will starve to death.)
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To: maryz; tioga
Color me skeptical -- my own observation has been that the left is more into self-congratulation and government agencies and feel-good cr@p that benefits no one than they go for actual charity.

Excellent observation! In the more 'progressive' dioceses (though here it is limited to 2 parishes), the emphasis is on feeding the poor. The Rochester and Albany NY dioceses are rife with these outreach programs while their parishes are now being turned over to Lay Ecclesial Ministers, just like St. Stephen's. There is no bishop to reel them in for these liturgical abuses. If anything, the bishop is supportive. Bottom line - the more lay involvement, the greater the level of abuse. These folks are not trained in liturgy; they do what the "think" or "believe" or "feel" is 'What Jesus would do!'.

25 posted on 03/04/2008 4:04:09 PM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: The Woim
they are really harmless and will fade away, as the elderly of the parish pass on there will not be a younger generation to take their place.

Don't bank on that! Last year we posted an article about a young woman in CA who decided to become a priest(ess). This movement may not be large but it has expanded to a younger generation that feels justified in demanding their 'rights'.

26 posted on 03/04/2008 4:10:34 PM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer

What’s especially sad is that SJA wasn’t always like this. I often attended SJA while a student at the University of Minnesota in Minneapolis.

What I remember was a fairly traditional...and beautiful...church with a very welcoming community. It’s been corrupted...and that’s a real tragedy. This is an old French parish - and in a historic portion of Minneapolis.


27 posted on 03/04/2008 5:02:01 PM PST by AlaninSA (In tabulario donationem feci.)
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To: The Woim
but they are really harmless and will fade away

You probably harbor the same feelings about gangrene.

28 posted on 03/04/2008 6:37:59 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: AlaninSA

And I just read John Beevers’ biography on the courageous St. Joan, whom I love very dearly, and she would most definitely not approve.


29 posted on 03/04/2008 7:38:15 PM PST by BaBaStooey (I heart Emma Caulfield.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

My first thought was “Oh, my!” My second thought was, “They’re Protestant.”

I know people like this, they celebrate themselves. It is all about them and what they are doing, it is being up on stage and being seen. They go to Mass to feed their egos.

On another note, our parish too had the glass “goblets” until I said the right thing to the right person at the right time in the right manner. Voila! the glass is gone.


30 posted on 03/04/2008 8:00:55 PM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: The Woim
these people are really just enjoying themselves on a Sunday morning.

That's the advantage of being Reformed. We know that the chief end of man is to glorify and enjoy God, not ourselves.

31 posted on 03/04/2008 8:24:50 PM PST by PAR35
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To: PAR35

That’s a problem with some liturgies, the focus is not on God as it should be, but becomes all about us.


32 posted on 03/04/2008 8:43:15 PM PST by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: wideawake
Indeed. I see a lot of white, middle-class people in that moblet - I don’t see any of the poor and homeless in their “gathering place.”

Looks like a bunch of Piskies.

33 posted on 03/05/2008 3:52:38 AM PST by Zero Sum (Liberalism: The damage ends up being a thousand times the benefit! (apologies to Rabbi Benny Lau))
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To: Cheverus
Now that the TLM is back at Holy Trinity (at 9am!!!!),

How long has this been going on? I knew they were planning it, but didn't know it had started!

34 posted on 03/05/2008 5:10:36 AM PST by maryz
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To: NYer
In the more 'progressive' dioceses (though here it is limited to 2 parishes), the emphasis is on feeding the poor.

Not sure of your point here -- what's wrong with feeding the poor (as long as it's "real" food that people would actually want to eat)? My suspicion is that in a lot of these programs, few of the poor actually get fed!

Not exactly on topic, but I remember reading something years ago about Tammany Hall -- in the bad old days, people did in fact sell their votes for a turkey at Thanksgiving. Then the "reformers" moved in. And after that, things were just as corrupt, but no one got a turkey at Thanksgiving any more!

35 posted on 03/05/2008 5:21:45 AM PST by maryz
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http://www.holytrinitygerman.org/

The weekly celebration of the Tridentine Mass will resume at Holy Trinity beginning on Sunday, February 10, (the First Sunday in Lent). The Tridentine Mass will be celebrated each Sunday at 9:00 AM.

Effective on February 10, the English/German (Novus Ordo) Mass will be moved from 10:00 AM to 11:00 AM.


36 posted on 03/05/2008 7:01:44 AM PST by Serviam1
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To: tiki
On another note, our parish too had the glass “goblets” until I said the right thing to the right person at the right time in the right manner. Voila! the glass is gone.

Please, please, PLEASE tell me what you did to get this done!!! Our priest, who is a decent, hard working and for the most part in line with the GIRM can't seem to abandon the use of glass goblets used by our platoon of ECM's on weekend masses. I'm hesitant to bring it up to him since I had no luck at all in quest to bring back the Sanctus bells...

37 posted on 03/05/2008 7:06:10 AM PST by conservonator (spill czeck is knot my friend)
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To: Serviam1

Thanks!


38 posted on 03/05/2008 7:25:57 AM PST by maryz
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To: A.A. Cunningham
You probably harbor the same feelings about gangrene.

ROTFLOL!!

39 posted on 03/05/2008 8:18:13 AM PST by GOP_Thug_Mom (libera nos a malo)
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To: conservonator
Our New Archbishop (CARDINAL DiNardo :) forbid the glass goblets when he was ordained. I think the key to tiki's experience was the right person.

I've seen good results (though not right away) by praying diligently for the priest. Other than that, you have the option of taking your money to a different parish, which is what we've had to do off and on my whole life. (But not a schismatic one, of course). If your diocese is having problems, you can maybe find a different Rite like the Byzantine Rite or something.

40 posted on 03/05/2008 8:24:33 AM PST by GOP_Thug_Mom (libera nos a malo)
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