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Catholic League: McCain Embraces Bigot [John Hagee]
Catholic Online ^ | 2/29/2008 | Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights

Posted on 02/28/2008 4:40:37 PM PST by Alex Murphy

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To: XeniaSt
It seems that the catholics on this thread do not show the Chesed ( lovingkindness ) of Yah'shua ( Jesus ).

Catholics love the whole Christ; fully God and fully man. Christ who called Peter Satan, who fashioned a whip of cords and kicked over the tables, who called the Pharisees liars, hypocrites and broods of vipers. Who called the pagan woman a dog and cursed the fig tree. We believe in the real Jesus, not merely an ideal Jesus.

281 posted on 03/09/2008 10:48:19 AM PDT by TradicalRC (Let's make immigration Safe, Legal and Rare.)
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To: onedoug
But he realizes that if Israel is lost, then so are are we.

Really? Why?

282 posted on 03/09/2008 10:50:25 AM PDT by TradicalRC (Let's make immigration Safe, Legal and Rare.)
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To: kellynla; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; irishtenor; wmfights
“Anti-Catholicism, the last safe bigotry.”

Oh cry me a river of tears. As if we should feel sorry for an organization that is corrupt to the core and has itself persecuted non-Catholic believers for centuries.

This might work to bring in the bucks at the local parish hall but no thinking person will fall for that nonsense coming from a member of one of the most powerful organizations in the world today.

283 posted on 03/09/2008 10:53:46 AM PDT by Gamecock
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To: narses
It's an old American WASP tradition.
284 posted on 03/09/2008 10:59:05 AM PDT by TradicalRC (Let's make immigration Safe, Legal and Rare.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Himmler and Goebbels worshipped in a Catholic church with their entire families until their deaths.

I'll assume you have some inside information, then. Which Church did they attend and where was it located?

285 posted on 03/09/2008 11:02:40 AM PDT by TradicalRC (Let's make immigration Safe, Legal and Rare.)
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To: TradicalRC
He denies that Jesus is the Messiah? Then how can he even be considered Christian? (Rather than say, Muslim.)

He (or a publicity minion) put out a clarifying statement afterwards. So much spin you have never seen before. (A quick Google later, here we go.) I think he meant what he said the first time, and it sounded perfectly fine to him and everyone around him.

It's dispensationalism, with it's rigid Church/Israel distinction, driven right over a cliff.

286 posted on 03/09/2008 11:10:11 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("recrudescent dispensational chiliasm -- threat or menace?")
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To: TradicalRC
lol. I can only assume you own no history books yourself and have never taken a history course in high school or college that dealt with World War II, fascism or Germany.

It's not too late to start.

287 posted on 03/09/2008 11:27:19 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: 1000 silverlings; meandog; Dr. Eckleburg
No matter what their background, I would wager that it’s safe to say they were never regenerated Christians to begin with.

Well said. We saw the fruits of their spirit.

FWIW, regardless of the depth of our differences with the RCC on what they teach as doctrine or dogma we shouldn't ascribe to it what individuals who were nominally RC's did. I can't believe they condoned any of the atrocities.

288 posted on 03/09/2008 11:29:27 AM PDT by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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To: Gamecock

“Oh cry me a river?”

Cry yourself a river, genius!

The Church has been around long before you arrived and will be around long after you’re gone!

Let us know when the “gamecocks” learn how to play ball.LMAO


289 posted on 03/09/2008 11:30:52 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; narses
Himmler and Goebbels worshipped in a Catholic church with their entire families until their deaths.

Would this have been a kin to Kennedy and Kerry today? IOW, they claim to be RC's but support abortion and gay marriage.

291 posted on 03/09/2008 11:33:45 AM PDT by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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To: Gamecock
This might work to bring in the bucks at the local parish...

If that parish were in L.A., its offerings would be going to pay for some of the $600 million that was paid out on one single day by the L.A. Archdiocese as part of its massive priestly sex scandal.

And yet the Vatican is wealthy beyond belief. But it's the poor parishioners who get to foot the bill for the sins of those who call themselves "another Christ."

292 posted on 03/09/2008 11:35:36 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: TradicalRC
Dear TradicalRC,

Actually, the Muslims consider Jesus to have been the Messiah, the Word of God, born of the Virgin Mary, conceived by the power of God's Spirit, just not the Divine Son of God.


sitetest

294 posted on 03/09/2008 11:39:48 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: TradicalRC

Good old James Blaine, the bigot who almost made President.


297 posted on 03/09/2008 11:41:03 AM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: Hacksaw

Church is for sinners, hence I go. :)


299 posted on 03/09/2008 11:49:00 AM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: Gamecock; kellynla; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; irishtenor
Oh cry me a river of tears. As if we should feel sorry for an organization that is corrupt to the core and has itself persecuted non-Catholic believers for centuries.

You beat me to it and phrased it better than I.

I think where you can draw the difference between 1930-40's Germany and past behavior is the RCC no longer had the power of the state behind it. Also, in the past the persecution was perpetrated on Christians who refused to be dominated by Rome. They justified that behavior because of their belief in exclusivity.

In Germany it was persecution of Jews, gypsies, political opponents and deviants. It was not an issue of Christian belief and authority.

300 posted on 03/09/2008 11:51:55 AM PDT by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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