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I Voted for Obama. Will I Go Straight to. . . ? (Yes)(barf alert)
Washington (com)Post ^
| 2/24/2008
| Joe Feuerherd
Posted on 02/23/2008 4:22:37 PM PST by markomalley
Like most Maryland Democrats, I voted for Sen. Barack Obama in the recent Potomac Primary. By doing so, according to the leaders of my church, I put my soul at risk. That's right, says the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops -- tap the touch screen for a pro-abortion-rights candidate, and you're probably punching your ticket to Hell.
For a church that "thinks in centuries," things sure are moving quickly. Back in 2004, as Washington correspondent for the independent National Catholic Reporter, I covered what Comedy Central's Jon Stewart dubbed the "wafer wars." A handful of conservative bishops warned Democratic presidential nominee John F. Kerry, a pro-abortion rights Catholic, that they would deny him Communion should he attempt to receive the church's most sacred sacrament.
Now the bishops have raised the stakes: It's not only lawmakers and candidates who risk damnation, 98 percent of the U.S. bishops agreed last November, but the voters who put them in office. "It is important to be clear," the bishops said in a 44-page statement titled "Forming Consciences for Faithful Citizenship," "that the political choices faced by citizens[emphasis added] not only have an impact on general peace and prosperity but also may affect the individual's salvation." Brooklyn Bishop Nicholas DiMarzio, chairman of the committee that drafted the statement, put those high-minded sentiments into plain English earlier this month. Support for a candidate who "espouses policies that are gravely immoral" is possible "only under exceptional circumstances that are hard to imagine," he told the Cathedral Club of Brooklyn.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: abortion; barackhusseinobama; bishops; catholiclist; catholicvote; catholicvoter; husseinobama; inferno; obama; obamanation; obamessiah; potomacprimary; proaborts
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The US bishops' statement (44pp) is
here.
The Vatican's statement is here.
To: markomalley
Obama’s candidacy poses a further problem for Catholics (or Presbyterians or Episcopalians for that matter) than just the abortion issue.
His campaign is practically a cult where voters are asked to “put their hope” in the candidate. A man can only belong to one religion, and Mr. Obama seems to have started a new messianic one.
To: markomalley; Mrs. Don-o
The last sentence really sums this guy up:
Sounds like I'll be voting for the Democrat -- and the bishops be damned. Thanks for posting with the links to the statements by the church.
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posted on
02/23/2008 4:44:07 PM PST
by
Greg F
(Do you want a guy named Hussein to fix your soul? Michelle Obama thinks you do.)
To: I_Like_Spam
His campaign is practically a cult where voters are asked to put their hope in the candidate. A man can only belong to one religion, and Mr. Obama seems to have started a new messianic one.
O leader DELIVER US!
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posted on
02/23/2008 4:50:46 PM PST
by
BigEdLB
(BigEd)
To: markomalley; Vision; Salvation; Calpernia; Coleus; WKB; cgk; .30Carbine; Terriergal; trussell; ...
the bishops said in a 44-page statement titled "Forming Consciences for Faithful Citizenship," "that the political choices faced by citizens[emphasis added] not only have an impact on general peace and prosperity but also may affect the individual's salvation
Holding voters' and officials' feet to the fire in this world is entirely different than thrusting them soul and all eternally into Hell.
While voting for Liberals is truly a Damned shame, it's not in and of itself Damnation.
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posted on
02/23/2008 4:58:09 PM PST
by
The Spirit Of Allegiance
(Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
"While voting for Liberals is truly a Damned shame, it's not in and of itself Damnation." Of course not. The bishops said, rightly, that it "may affect" the individual's salvation. Everything you do has a moral aspect. Everything you do "may affect" your salvation.
If you knowingly and willingly make yourself an accomplice to a grave moral wrong, that's the recipe for a soul-killing act. The adjectives are important.
Take care.
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posted on
02/23/2008 5:23:49 PM PST
by
Mrs. Don-o
(Mammalia Primatia Hominidae Homo sapiens. Still working on the "sapiens" part.)
To: markomalley
So what's a pro-life, pro-family, antiwar, pro-immigrant, pro-economic-justice Catholic like me supposed to do in November? That's an easy one. Easy as pie. I'll just say, "To hell with all those dead babies . . . and the God who made them! My soul belongs to the Democrat Party!"
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posted on
02/23/2008 5:25:37 PM PST
by
madprof98
("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
To: markomalley
OBAMA, I offer You all my thoughts, works, joys, and sufferings this day. I beseech You, grant me The Hope that I may not offend You this day, but may faithfully serve You to bring about Change We Can Believe In. Amen.
V. Barack Obama R. Heal This Nation.
V. Barack Obama R. Heal This Nation.
V. Barack Obama R. Heal This Nation.
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posted on
02/23/2008 5:47:06 PM PST
by
Oratam
To: markomalley
Sen. Barack Obama in the recent Potomac Primary. By doing so, according to the leaders of my church, I put my soul at risk.
For those of my theological bent, the curious popularity of Senator Obama (Devilcrat, IL) is cause to contemplate depravity, the fall and the "noetic effects of sin".
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posted on
02/23/2008 6:00:38 PM PST
by
Lee N. Field
("your dispensational hermeneutic has driven you mad!")
To: markomalley
I Voted for Obama. Will I Go Straight to . . .?I don't know if the destination is H E DoubleHockeySticks, but we ALL may be headed for 4 to 8 years of Purgatory.
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posted on
02/23/2008 6:05:12 PM PST
by
Momaw Nadon
("...with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world.")
To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
Could be a symptom of the state of the heart that leads to hell though!
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posted on
02/23/2008 8:51:21 PM PST
by
Terriergal
("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
To: markomalley
I suspect he was living a life that would take him directly to hell BEFORE he voted in the Democratic primary. He should stop the posturing. Was he ever so concerned about other things that the Church taught?
To: markomalley
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posted on
02/24/2008 7:23:13 AM PST
by
Alex Murphy
("Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" -- Galatians 4:16)
To: Oratam
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posted on
02/24/2008 8:53:08 AM PST
by
onedoug
To: markomalley
I hope his parish priest reads this article and refuses to give him Communion.
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posted on
02/24/2008 2:50:18 PM PST
by
FormerLib
(Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
To: markomalley
Since he’s not concerned enough about his salvation to inform his conscience on why voting for Obama is a vote for Satan, why does he care what the bishops say enough to write a column about it?
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posted on
02/25/2008 8:59:08 AM PST
by
Rutles4Ever
(Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
To: Lee N. Field
I get what you're saying.
Sin Makes You Stupid TM
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posted on
02/25/2008 10:18:36 AM PST
by
Mrs. Don-o
("Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom...though it cost all you have, get understanding" - Prov. 4)
To: markomalley
The desolation
of Obamination
May lead you
to damnation.
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posted on
02/25/2008 10:22:05 AM PST
by
NeoCaveman
(El Conservo Tribe, tribal name "Avoids Fort Marcy Park")
To: markomalley
If Catholics were as reliably Republican as Southern Baptists, NJ, CT, PA, NH, MA, and RI would be solidly Republican states.
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posted on
02/25/2008 10:23:57 AM PST
by
Clemenza
(I live in New Jersey for the Same Reason People Slow Down to Look at Car Wrecks)
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