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Seven Prophecies That Must Be Fulfilled Before Jesus Christ's Return
Good News Magazine ^ | Feb 2008 | Melvin Rhodes

Posted on 02/22/2008 5:31:45 PM PST by DouglasKC

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1 posted on 02/22/2008 5:31:51 PM PST by DouglasKC
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Interesting.


2 posted on 02/22/2008 5:33:25 PM PST by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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After listening to Chris Matthews, I thought he did return already. Wasn’t he the guy debating Hillary last night?


3 posted on 02/22/2008 5:37:18 PM PST by tips up
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To: DouglasKC
Good News Magazine? I guess it doesn't get any better than this?
4 posted on 02/22/2008 5:42:59 PM PST by vetvetdoug (Just when one thinks life is strange, it gets stranger.)
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To: tips up
After listening to Chris Matthews, I thought he did return already. Wasn’t he the guy debating Hillary last night?

That may be the "other" guy he was talking about...

5 posted on 02/22/2008 5:44:29 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: swmobuffalo
Interesting.

Indeed and a good study...

6 posted on 02/22/2008 5:45:31 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: vetvetdoug
Good News Magazine? I guess it doesn't get any better than this?

The return of Christ and the establishment of his kingdom IS good news indeed and it doesn't get much better than that. :-)

7 posted on 02/22/2008 5:54:11 PM PST by DouglasKC
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#4 is incorrect.

A revived Roman Empire would NOT be a group of European nations.

The heart of the Roman Empire was Mediterranean nations.


8 posted on 02/22/2008 5:57:07 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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#4 is incorrect. A revived Roman Empire would NOT be a group of European nations. The heart of the Roman Empire was Mediterranean nations.

This interpretation is based upon the fact that the current European Union has it's roots in the Treaty of Rome.

Can you elaborate on the interpretation you're presenting?

9 posted on 02/22/2008 6:03:20 PM PST by DouglasKC
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It’s a shame you posted such a great article on a Friday night! I’d love to discuss but after a long week, I’m just tired. There are so many indications of the Lord’s return.

There is Daniel sealing up the book until the end of times, significant.

There is God made the earth in 7 days, a day is like a thousand years. The old testament lasted 4000 years when in Hosea, 6:2, God said in 2 days I will revive you (speaking of Isreal), in 3 days I will restore you. Israel was restored in either 1947 or so or after the 8 days war in 1968 but in either case, restored in this century.

So 4 days (or 4 thousand years) and add 3 days (the time Jesus was in the earth before being brought to be with the Father) and now 3000 years since that happened, so a total of 7 days or 7 thousand years (remember a day is like a thousand years). For some reason, God likes 7.

And then of course, there’s the Mayan calendar that went for a thousand or better years after their demise, it ends 2012.

This probably all sounds kooky because I’m not up to discussing tonight. Utlimately, yes, I think it’s close.

Look for a 7 year peace agreement between Israel and Palestine and then for 2 witnesses to be killed and seen the world over. At the time this was written, no one could imagine how they could be seen the world over but with television, it will happen. Also there was the verse where when Jesus came back, the entire world would see. Only with our technology of today, can that happen.

Have at it, but I do think the time is near.


10 posted on 02/22/2008 6:10:25 PM PST by ozarkgirl
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To: DouglasKC

I am glad you are ready. I am forever worried that I am not ready and acceptable for the coming. Its one test I don’t think I will ever have studied and acted enough for.


11 posted on 02/22/2008 6:12:49 PM PST by vetvetdoug (Just when one thinks life is strange, it gets stranger.)
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But isn’t Turkey (Byzantium, or Rum) part of EU? That would be much of the Roman Empire, except Egypt and Libya, (and Palestine)
12 posted on 02/22/2008 6:23:18 PM PST by NathanR ( Duncan Hunter for SecDef)
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I am glad you are ready. I am forever worried that I am not ready and acceptable for the coming. Its one test I don’t think I will ever have studied and acted enough for.

I think everyone has doubts and fears and the ones who are the most confident that they've "made it" probably haven't yet.

Mat 7:21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.
Mat 7:22 "Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?'
Mat 7:23 "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'

I don't think worry is the attitude Christians should have, but assurance tempered with humility and obedience should be the proper attitude.

13 posted on 02/22/2008 6:25:12 PM PST by DouglasKC
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If, as the Bible is best interpreted, the 4th kingdom of Daniel is the Roman Empire, which I think it is, then we must look at the actual Roman Empire and not at some European federation.

There is nothing in the bible that says, "European Federation." But, we do know who is the Prince of the people to come....Rome. We do know the 7-hilled city...Rome.

The Roman Empire was primarily the nations of the Mediterranean basin. On the northern shore, now European; on the southern and eastern shores, now Arabic.

Here is a paragraph from an article on the "Barcelona Process" link Interestingly in involves a fledgling union of nations, "The Five Plus Five." (Note: 5+5=10)

It always pays to keep our eyes open and not get hung up on interpretations that are opinions.

The “Five plus Five”The creation of the “Five plus Five” in July 1990—originally estab-lished as the “Four plus Five” and later enlarged to include Maltalater in 1990—was aimed at developing cooperation between Spain,France, Italy, Portugal, and Malta, on the one hand, and Algeria,Libya, Morocco, Tunisia, and Mauritania on the other. Discussiontopics included natural resource management, economic links andfinancial assistance, immigration, and culture. The “Five plus Five”very soon encountered serious obstacles, the most important ofwhich was the international embargo on Libya. The absence ofEgypt, friction between Algeria and Morocco over the Western Sa-hara and Algeria’s internal instability also undermined the initiative.The “Five plus Five” excluded military security discussions from theagenda; in that regard it presented a unique approach and may have --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

14 posted on 02/22/2008 6:26:08 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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None of us are ever really ready, however, with a simple prayer asking Jesus into our hearts and asking Him for His eternal forgiveness … we will be more than acceptable in God’s eyes. From that point we are forever washed in the Glorified Blood of Jesus and crucified with Him on the Cross. The crucified blood of Jesus will cover all sins, if only we ask.

That is the promise of the Gospels.


15 posted on 02/22/2008 6:30:28 PM PST by doc1019 (Remember always, God is still in control.)
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Don’t give up.


16 posted on 02/22/2008 6:33:03 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: ozarkgirl
There is God made the earth in 7 days, a day is like a thousand years. The old testament lasted 4000 years when in Hosea, 6:2, God said in 2 days I will revive you (speaking of Isreal), in 3 days I will restore you. Israel was restored in either 1947 or so or after the 8 days war in 1968 but in either case, restored in this century. So 4 days (or 4 thousand years) and add 3 days (the time Jesus was in the earth before being brought to be with the Father) and now 3000 years since that happened, so a total of 7 days or 7 thousand years (remember a day is like a thousand years). For some reason, God likes 7. And then of course, there’s the Mayan calendar that went for a thousand or better years after their demise, it ends 2012.

Thank you for your response. God does indeed love 7!

As far as timing I agree with the thousand years as a day scenario. The "7th" day will be the milleniel rest, foreshadowed by the 7th day sabbath created at the beginning of creation.

However, I think it depends on where God marks the end of the 6th "year". Is it 2000 years AFTER the birth ofr Christ, or could it be 2000 years AFTER the death of Christ? If death, then it could be around 2030 or so. I tend to lean toward that time frame because man can get a whole lot worse than we are now. But then again God only knows.

17 posted on 02/22/2008 6:33:16 PM PST by DouglasKC
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The wonderful thing about salvation is that it doesn’t depend on us, Jesus did it all. We simply accept the free gift He has given us. He is the Author and Finisher of our faith.

We need to repent and ask for forgiveness. Because of what He has done on our behalf, we will do things for others but it is not a condition of salvation.

I am amazed that when God looks at sinful me, He sees Christ’s righteousness. Wow how incredible.


18 posted on 02/22/2008 6:38:15 PM PST by GOPPachyderm
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The Roman Empire was primarily the nations of the Mediterranean basin. On the northern shore, now European; on the southern and eastern shores, now Arabic. Here is a paragraph from an article on the "Barcelona Process" link Interestingly in involves a fledgling union of nations, "The Five Plus Five." (Note: 5+5=10) It always pays to keep our eyes open and not get hung up on interpretations that are opinions.

That's certainly a possibility. The article does have this caveat for those who think they have it all figured out:

Some have speculated that the 10 kings referred to in this prophecy will be leaders of 10 regions of the EU that will redraw the boundaries of Europe, ending the present nation-states. The Bible is not clear on exactly which 10 regions or nations will configure the final revival of the militaristic Roman superpower—only that this new superpower will indeed emerge just before Christ's return.

19 posted on 02/22/2008 6:39:07 PM PST by DouglasKC
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So why did the United Church of God take Herbert W. Armstrong's name off of the books in the links (I could find his name nowhere, but I certainly recognize his speil). And who did the editing (Joseph Tkach, Sr. perhaps?) It's easy to spot the revisions in the .pdf versions at the website, and they didn't even bother changing the American flag/British flag cover of the 60s edition of "The United States and Britan In Bible Prophecy" (which dates to at least 1948). The Armstrong original Worldwide Church of God materials are available today from the Philadelphia Church of God with Armstrong's name still on it and I presume his copyrights still intact.

I'm not trying to start a row, I have no dog in the fight and Armstrong died in '86 (not to be confused with his renegade son Garner Ted, but that's another story). I've followed the schisms in Armstrong's WWCOG for over forty years - call it an amusing hobby, but I've never come arcoss this outpost of Armstrongism. Is the United Church of God comprised of followers of Tkachism and haters of Flurry's Philadelphia group who carry on the HWA banner or is this a Garner Ted offshoot?

I did look on the "About" page at the UCOG site and saw that the church "began as a formal assembly in 1995" but there's not much to that breif "History". I'm just interested in who's behind recycling H.W. Armstrong's teachings without mentioning him. Who are you folks? I hope you can answer, but I won't get my hopes up.
20 posted on 02/22/2008 6:40:27 PM PST by Drumbo ("Democracy can withstand anything but democrats." - Jubal Harshaw (Robert A. Heinlein))
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