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Posted on 02/22/2008 9:11:12 AM PST by Zakeet
They're called the "Lost Boys," the teenagers kicked out of their homes and communities by leaders of the polygamist Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints to ensure there's an ample supply of single, young women who will one day become plural wives. Representative Lorie Fowlke (R-Orem), is running a bill to make this abandonment a felony.
"Estimates are that we've had more than 1,000 children - primarily in southern Utah - thrown out of their homes," Fowlke says. "What we were trying to do with this bill is criminalize this behavior and send a message to this community that they can't just throw away their children."
H.B. 23 adds child abandonment to the definition of child abuse, and makes it a felony crime. It also adds an enhancement if a parent or organization benefits from the child's abandonment to further an illegal enterprise, such as polygamy. This is the case with the FLDS church, says Roger Hoole, a lawyer who represents some of the displaced young men and sits on the board for the Utah Association for Justice. He says the church benefits from kicking out young men who would compete for plural wives. This, he says, has devastating consequences.
"There's a huge impact that's coming, like a tsunami, that's going to hit the state of Utah, when these boys get a little older and realize what has happened to them and get angry," Hoole says. "There's a real problem here."
Fowlke's bill gained unanimous support in a Senate committee this morning, and now heads to the full Senate for consideration.
20. We're not going to explain it to you because you are a pig.
A bit of a CIRCULAR ARGUMENT; eh?
Mmmmmmmm K. This has now ventured into "Bizzaro World."
Resty - on this very thread, you said you didn't hit the abuse button (and ended your sentence with an exclamation point"!") - when in fact you admitted doing just that in post #71.
I even posted a link of your own post to it.
On post #33 of this thread - the RM said this:
And another thing or two... 1. Argue your points on thread not by abuse reports. The moderators don't appreciate posters trying to win their arguments by having the other guy's removed.
Moreover, you have a documented history of doing just that (hitting the abuse button on LDS threads). Shall I list them?
I don't expect someone to come to the rescue here, because given the antics of Old Mountain Man on this thread calling people "liars" and "idiots" and not being reprimanded, I don't think the referee is non-biased. However, I can live with that.
My conscious is clear regarding my fairness to you and other Mormons on this board. On 16 Feb 08, in a thread titled: Have We Not Reason to Rejoice?; I posted this Private Message to you:
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To restornu | 02/16/2008 4:36:02 AM EST sent
Dear Restornu,
Please accept my apology if I have been rude to you. I would like to converse with you privately here.
Thanks,
Sky
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Quite honestly, I don't believe I was rude to you on that thread, but the tone of your posts worried me. You seemed very upset, and I wanted to talk to you about it. There was no malicious intent on my part, and I was trying to reach out to you.
You chose to not respond.
Your prerogative, but please don't be duplicitous on this board and accuse me of "being mischievous" by stating black is black, left is left, and down is down. If you cannot deal with reality regarding whether you say you hit the abuse button, admit, and then deny it in the same thread, then how can you expect us to converse with you logically and soberly on matters of Salvation, Sin, Heaven, Hell, God, and Redemption?
I wish you well.
I did NOT push that button; Ms. Abuse!
Your Honor, I rest my case.
So true!
It is quite illuminating on YOUR responses; isn't it!
Direct questions equals sick fodder...how exactly?
So you have already answered these questions before? Just tell me the name of the thread and I will search for your specific answers.
Boy that sounds so contrived. You actually believe this stuff?
But I posted NOTHING on this RELIGION forom but a LINK.
I did NOT post a direct picture; like SOMEONE has done in the past.
One who would accept that X rated post #1434 is far from being a follower of Jesus Christ.
And a true Christian would not have posted 1434!
That comes from a totally depraved soul!
The picture I posted was popculture what you posted was porn!
Moreover, you didn't address anything regarding the specifics I just posted to you.
Quite frankly Resty, you never do.
Finally, you won't be reprimanded here for calling my soul "depraved" by the RM. (I guess that is not "personal" enough?) Unbelievable, really.
It appears the LDS threads are stacked in terms of Mod favoritism, but that is fine by me. At least I know the "rules" now.
That picture bothers you yet Pedophilia, polygamy do not?
How about young boys thrown out of the nest so that old men may marry the young girls?
Why don’t those sins bother you? What about J.Smith lying about his many, many wives?
Is it ok to break any commandment as long as you pretend God gave you special dispensation? How about answering some of those disturbing questions?
What do you two want?
Is it not true both of you dislike the Mormon faith?
Say Mormons are not Christians?
I have no problem with mainstream because I can find a lot in common.
Is it not true that you could not afford to find what is in common because you would feel you would have violated some oath?
My Lord has welcome me to love my neighbor and still not fear disloyalty to my faith!
Have a nice day and blessings to you!
To: MHGinTN
Discuss the issues all you want, but do NOT make it personal.
1,411 posted on 02/28/2008 11:26:18 PM MST by Religion Moderator
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Specifically, who was that post meant for? And why weren't restornu and Old Mountain Man included in the reprimand? I realize that these reprimands are meant to apply to all, but this particular one has raised questions on the non-mormon side.
I again raise the probability of a deliberate attempt to have this thread censored.
This is spam because you POST it every day!
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Happy Leap Year day, Resty...
Once every FOUR YEARS...
I did not call you depraved I said that post 1434 was totally depraved.
As I said before you seem to see nothing wrong with post 1434!
there is no favoritism here I get wacked too the RM has a hard job can’t please everyone, including me at times!
harvest the potatoes from those ears!:)
The scoffing is not related to the language...it is related to the work of fraud that Joseph Smith performed related to the egyptian funeral papyrus and his fake translation into Mormon books.
As the New York Times headline read on December 29, 1912...
MUSEUM WALLS PROCLAIM FRAUD OF MORMON PROPHET; Sacred Books Claimed to Have Been Given Divinely to the First Prophet Are Shown to be Taken from Old Egyptian Originals, Their Translation Being a Work of the Imagination -- What a Comparison with Metropolitan Museum Treasures Shows.
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