FLDS Parents Could Face Charges for Abandoning their "Lost Boys"

KCPW News ^ | February 14, 2008

[Zakeet]

They're called the "Lost Boys," the teenagers kicked out of their homes and communities by leaders of the polygamist Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints to ensure there's an ample supply of single, young women who will one day become plural wives. Representative Lorie Fowlke (R-Orem), is running a bill to make this abandonment a felony.

"Estimates are that we've had more than 1,000 children - primarily in southern Utah - thrown out of their homes," Fowlke says. "What we were trying to do with this bill is criminalize this behavior and send a message to this community that they can't just throw away their children."

H.B. 23 adds child abandonment to the definition of child abuse, and makes it a felony crime. It also adds an enhancement if a parent or organization benefits from the child's abandonment to further an illegal enterprise, such as polygamy. This is the case with the FLDS church, says Roger Hoole, a lawyer who represents some of the displaced young men and sits on the board for the Utah Association for Justice. He says the church benefits from kicking out young men who would compete for plural wives. This, he says, has devastating consequences.

"There's a huge impact that's coming, like a tsunami, that's going to hit the state of Utah, when these boys get a little older and realize what has happened to them and get angry," Hoole says. "There's a real problem here."

Fowlke's bill gained unanimous support in a Senate committee this morning, and now heads to the full Senate for consideration.

[P-Marlowe]

You left off this:

20. We're not going to explain it to you because you are a pig.

[Elsie]

Oh, and I would add these references from the Book of Mormon explaining why they used Reformed Egyptian and what is was.

A bit of a CIRCULAR ARGUMENT; eh?

[Elsie]

So THIS is what happens when a True Believer finds that the LDS Organization is not exactly what it tries to pretend to be!

[SkyPilot]

Now you are trying to imply I did when I said I did not hit the abuse button! This is an act of being mischievous...

Mmmmmmmm K. This has now ventured into "Bizzaro World."

Resty - on this very thread, you said you didn't hit the abuse button (and ended your sentence with an exclamation point"!") - when in fact you admitted doing just that in post #71.

I even posted a link of your own post to it.

On post #33 of this thread - the RM said this:

And another thing or two... 1. Argue your points on thread not by abuse reports. The moderators don't appreciate posters trying to win their arguments by having the other guy's removed.

Moreover, you have a documented history of doing just that (hitting the abuse button on LDS threads). Shall I list them?

I don't expect someone to come to the rescue here, because given the antics of Old Mountain Man on this thread calling people "liars" and "idiots" and not being reprimanded, I don't think the referee is non-biased. However, I can live with that.

My conscious is clear regarding my fairness to you and other Mormons on this board. On 16 Feb 08, in a thread titled: Have We Not Reason to Rejoice?; I posted this Private Message to you:

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To restornu | 02/16/2008 4:36:02 AM EST sent

Dear Restornu,
Please accept my apology if I have been rude to you. I would like to converse with you privately here.

Thanks,

Sky

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Quite honestly, I don't believe I was rude to you on that thread, but the tone of your posts worried me. You seemed very upset, and I wanted to talk to you about it. There was no malicious intent on my part, and I was trying to reach out to you.

You chose to not respond.

Your prerogative, but please don't be duplicitous on this board and accuse me of "being mischievous" by stating black is black, left is left, and down is down. If you cannot deal with reality regarding whether you say you hit the abuse button, admit, and then deny it in the same thread, then how can you expect us to converse with you logically and soberly on matters of Salvation, Sin, Heaven, Hell, God, and Redemption?

I wish you well.

[Elsie]

I did NOT push that button; Ms. Abuse!

[SkyPilot]

I am hitting the abuse button that was evil thing to do

Your Honor, I rest my case.

[Elsie]

This is spam because you POST it every day!

So true!

It is quite illuminating on YOUR responses; isn't it!

[pby]

No I have found it is useless to do so with people who just want something to use for their sick fodder!

Direct questions equals sick fodder...how exactly?

So you have already answered these questions before? Just tell me the name of the thread and I will search for your specific answers.

[P-Marlowe]

Mormon 9:
32 And now, behold, we have written this record according to our knowledge, in the characters which are called among us the reformed Egyptian, being handed down and altered by us, according to our manner of speech.
33 And if our plates had been sufficiently large we should have written in Hebrew; but the Hebrew hath been altered by us also; and if we could have written in Hebrew, behold, ye would have had no imperfection in our record.
34 But the Lord knoweth the things which we have written, and also that none other people knoweth our language; and because that none other people knoweth our language, therefore he hath prepared means for the interpretation thereof.

Boy that sounds so contrived. You actually believe this stuff?

[Elsie]

I am hitting the abuse button that was evil thing to do and this is a religion forum not for XXX rated!

But I posted NOTHING on this RELIGION forom but a LINK.

I did NOT post a direct picture; like SOMEONE has done in the past.

[restornu]

One who would accept that X rated post #1434 is far from being a follower of Jesus Christ.

And a true Christian would not have posted 1434!

That comes from a totally depraved soul!

[restornu]

The picture I posted was popculture what you posted was porn!

[SkyPilot]

I didn't post anything "X-rated" and I don't intend to.

Moreover, you didn't address anything regarding the specifics I just posted to you.

Quite frankly Resty, you never do.

Finally, you won't be reprimanded here for calling my soul "depraved" by the RM. (I guess that is not "personal" enough?) Unbelievable, really.

It appears the LDS threads are stacked in terms of Mod favoritism, but that is fine by me. At least I know the "rules" now.

[bonfire]

That picture bothers you yet Pedophilia, polygamy do not?
How about young boys thrown out of the nest so that old men may marry the young girls?

Why don’t those sins bother you? What about J.Smith lying about his many, many wives?

Is it ok to break any commandment as long as you pretend God gave you special dispensation? How about answering some of those disturbing questions?

[restornu]

What do you two want?

Is it not true both of you dislike the Mormon faith?

Say Mormons are not Christians?

I have no problem with mainstream because I can find a lot in common.

Is it not true that you could not afford to find what is in common because you would feel you would have violated some oath?

My Lord has welcome me to love my neighbor and still not fear disloyalty to my faith!

Have a nice day and blessings to you!

[greyfoxx39]

Moderator, your post #1411 is addressed to MHGinTN, while the post you are replying to was one made by restornu:

To: MHGinTN
Discuss the issues all you want, but do NOT make it personal.
1,411 posted on 02/28/2008 11:26:18 PM MST by Religion Moderator
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Specifically, who was that post meant for? And why weren't restornu and Old Mountain Man included in the reprimand? I realize that these reprimands are meant to apply to all, but this particular one has raised questions on the non-mormon side.

I again raise the probability of a deliberate attempt to have this thread censored.

[Tennessee Nana]

This is spam because you POST it every day!
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Happy Leap Year day, Resty...

Once every FOUR YEARS...

[restornu]

I did not call you depraved I said that post 1434 was totally depraved.

As I said before you seem to see nothing wrong with post 1434!

there is no favoritism here I get wacked too the RM has a hard job can’t please everyone, including me at times!

harvest the potatoes from those ears!:)

[pby]

About the reformed Egyptian scoffing...

The scoffing is not related to the language...it is related to the work of fraud that Joseph Smith performed related to the egyptian funeral papyrus and his fake translation into Mormon books.

As the New York Times headline read on December 29, 1912...

MUSEUM WALLS PROCLAIM FRAUD OF MORMON PROPHET; Sacred Books Claimed to Have Been Given Divinely to the First Prophet Are Shown to be Taken from Old Egyptian Originals, Their Translation Being a Work of the Imagination -- What a Comparison with Metropolitan Museum Treasures Shows.

[Elsie]

The picture I posted was popculture what you posted was porn!

Porno??

 

Proverbs 5:19-20
 19.  A loving doe, a graceful deer-- may her breasts satisfy you always, may you ever be captivated by her love.
 20.  Why be captivated, my son, by an adulteress? Why embrace the bosom of another man's wife?

 

 

Song of Solomon 1:13
  My lover is to me a sachet of myrrh resting between my breasts.

 

Song of Solomon 4:5
  Your two breasts are like two fawns, like twin fawns of a gazelle that browse among the lilies.

 

Song of Solomon 7:3
 Your breasts are like two fawns, twins of a gazelle.

 

Song of Solomon 7:8-9
 8.  I said, "I will climb the palm tree; I will take hold of its fruit." May your breasts be like the clusters of the vine, the fragrance of your breath like apples,
 9.  and your mouth like the best wine. May the wine go straight to my lover, flowing gently over lips and teeth.

 

Song of Solomon 8:10
  I am a wall, and my breasts are like towers. Thus I have become in his eyes like one bringing contentment.

 

Ezekiel 23:3
 They became prostitutes in Egypt, engaging in prostitution from their youth. In that land their breasts were fondled and their virgin bosoms caressed.

 

Ezekiel 23:21
  So you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when in Egypt your bosom was caressed and your young breasts fondled.

 

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Ezekiel 16:36-40
 36.  This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Because you poured out your wealth  and exposed your nakedness in your promiscuity with your lovers, and because of all your detestable idols, and because you gave them your children's blood,
 37.  therefore I am going to gather all your lovers, with whom you found pleasure, those you loved as well as those you hated. I will gather them against you from all around and will strip you in front of them, and they will see all your nakedness.
 38.  I will sentence you to the punishment of women who commit adultery and who shed blood; I will bring upon you the blood vengeance of my wrath and jealous anger.
 39.  Then I will hand you over to your lovers, and they will tear down your mounds and destroy your lofty shrines. They will strip you of your clothes and take your fine jewelry and leave you naked and bare.
 40.  They will bring a mob against you, who will stone you and hack you to pieces with their swords.