[Zakeet]

Among the Saint's biggest objections:

1. Mitt disavowed polygamy

2. Mitt was annoying when he "had to say the safest, most Protestant thing he could think of" when asked what Bible he used

3. Mitt said the oath of office would become his "highest promise to God" instead of his temple covenants

4. Mitt said, "I don't know that [God's] spoken to anyone since Moses in the [Burning] Bush" in a statement that "seemed to strike at the very foundations of his [Mormon] church"

5. Mormons were troubled by Romney's eager wooing of evangelical voters and his efforts to "blur the differences between the two groups"

Bottom Line: To try to be something you're not just doesn't work ... it was a moral error, as well as a political error

[who_would_fardels_bear]

Gideon Bible and a TV Guide
TV Guide, TV Guide
Great Lord Almighty it's a TV Guide

[Reaganesque]

[Marysecretary]

God speaks to people NOW. We just don’t listen.

[streetpreacher]

Others were puzzled to hear Romney say he reads the Gideon Bible—a version popular with evangelicals: Mormons uniformly study the King James version, in a Salt Lake edition that is cross-referenced to all other Mormon scripture.

The Gideon Bible is a translation? I thought it was a KJV.

[Saundra Duffy]

Romney stepped aside “for the good of the party . . . for the good of the country . . . in a time of war.” What a wonderful, honorable man. Yet the anti Romney hit pieces just keep rolling along. It is thoroughly creepy.

“Others were puzzled to hear Romney say he reads the Gideon Bible” - Mormons read the Bible all the time. In our home, we have several versions of the Bible.

This article was written by a bigot with an anti Mormon agenda. And it is thoroughly sickening. Enough already.

[Colofornian]

From the article:

Like any religious or ethnic group, Mormons are loyal to their own.

Well, all I can say is if Evangelicals were ever 90-95% "loyal" to their own with their votes, the raiders of the "bigot patrol" would run roughshod over those folks here and elsewhere. The hue and cry would be tremendous. Accusations of "bias" and "bigotry" and "identity politics" would never cease. (But when it's non-Evangelicals, these same folks grow silent and essentially say, "That's nice." ...Can you say two-faced hypocrisy?)

From the article:

But many Mormons were troubled by Romney's eager wooing of evangelical voters and his efforts to blur the differences between the two groups. "I do think he was attempting to reach out to conservative evangelicals in a way that, as a Mormon, I'm not entirely comfortable with," says Nathan Oman, a law professor at William and Mary. "I don't want us to fall into the trap of trying to present Mormonism as some sort of idiosyncratic brand of Protestantism....Mormons are anathema—not only on theological grounds [but because to evangelicals] there is something uniquely disreputable about being a Mormon. I really don't think there's anything you can say that is going to convince these people to forgive you for being a Latter-day Saint. I didn't see there was any way he was going to get those votes."

For those who have posted on this thread blaming Newsweek for being the source of these comments [POWG, alreadythere, vigilanteman], please note that some lengthy quotes like the above come directly from Mormons.

According to an LDS law professor, "there is something uniquely disreputable about being a Mormon."

Evangelicals didn't create that reputation. It's been around for a long time. And a good chunk of it is simply tied to the founder himself--meaning that for many Mormons, the only thing they've publicly done that's "disreputable" is to lend their very "sustenance" [LDS "sustain" their "prophets"] to a man who claimed that God was his "right hand man"; to a man who claimed he was the only man who ever kept a church together while Jesus and Paul's followers "ran away from them"; to a man who married 9 to 11 women who were already currently married to other men; to a man...

[Sloth]

Others were puzzled to hear Romney say he reads the Gideon Bible—a version popular with evangelicals

Huh? 'Gideon' isn't a version, it's a... well, a non-profit publisher, I guess. And as far as I know, it's only "popular" with hotel furniture.

[colorado tanker]

Geez, give it a rest. Mitt didn’t get the nomination. Get over the Mormon thing.

[Bushwacker777]

“Mormons uniformly study the King James version, in a Salt Lake edition that is cross-referenced to all other Mormon scripture. “

Not true. Mormons in Sweden use the Bible that is standard for the Swedish Lutheran Church.

[cherry]

I will support Romney next time...I admired his graceful and statesmanlike exit...wish we had seen more of that....

but his Mormon supporters were just like I figured....more loyal to their temple than to God or our nation.....what's up with Romney swearing allegiance to God instead of to his temple?....imagine that....

is it like I thought...that Mormons supported Romney ONLY because of his Mormonism?......not because of his intellect, his leadership, his character, his policies?

[Old Mountain man]

Last time I was in a hotel the Gideon Bible was a King James Version. Or do you mainstreamers have some super secret new version you are hiding behind?

[No Dems 2004]

I’m just glad Mitt Romney didn’t get the GOP nod. He was articulate and sometimes funny, but he just wasn’t the right guy.

[Rameumptom]

Romney trying to make common ground with Evangelicals is far less worrisome than the spectre of Evangelicals who made common ground with liberals and liberal MSM rags to bash Romney. Like say "Newsweek", for example, the source of this liberal hit piece. As far as I'm concerned southern Evangelicals sold the GOP and conservatives out when they voted for McCain and Huck over Thompson, Hunter and Romney.

Romney dropped out over two weeks ago. yet Evangelicals feel compelled to post liberal hit pieces about him still. Perhaps it assauges their guilty conscious?

As far as the points they are lame anyway.

>>Mitt disavowed polygamy

Duhh, so did the LDS church over 100 years ago. Sort of like Protestants eventually disavowed it even though Martin Luther approved of it.

>>Mitt was annoying when he "had to say the safest, most Protestant thing he could think of" when asked what Bible he used

I've read the Gideon Bible as well, they're free and small. So what. I've also read the Red Letter version and the Reina Valera Edition. The reina valera is technically a better translation than the KJV even though the KJV is the official edition of the Church. I plan on reading the Catholic version with the books that the Protestants decided to later cut out. If I ever get around to it I'd love to read them in the Greek and Hebrew as well which are both better editions than the KJV

>>>Mitt said the oath of office would become his "highest promise to God" instead of his temple covenants

This isn't an issue. When I took the oath to support and defend the Constitution against enemies both foreign and domentic I realized that it would be my highest oath. Even if I took me away from Family and the ability to perform certain aspects of my worship. Many Military service members who are Mormon have to make a personal decision like this. It's nothing new. The Nazarenes in the Bible took other oaths that went beyond what Christ asked them to do. (Don't drink wine, don't cut your hair). God honors oaths that individuals take.

>>Mitt said, "I don't know that [God's] spoken to anyone since Moses in the [Burning] Bush" in a statement that "seemed to strike at the very foundations of his [Mormon] church"

I just googled that comment and the only hit I came up with was your post here on FR. You have provided an inaccurate source reading of the comment. Funny how you can make a comment say something different than it does when you put a lot of editing brackets in there and cut sentences up into tiny little bits.

The original interview said after the "Bush..." [and I quote without cutting it off with brackets] "...and perhaps some others". Referring to the "other" prophets as well as Moses. His point was that God hadn't spoken to him in that way but he confirmed that God spoke to othe prophets just like he did to Moses. IOW, the actual quote proves your point wrong.

Funny how using those little brackets and cutting up one whole sentence into tiny little ones and leaving parts out can be so easily used to lie about what someone really said. Be honest provide us a source link for the bracketed version or you'll have to admit that you edited the lying version yourself.

[ladyinred]

Bottom Line: No body cares that Obama is a closet Muslim.

[Utah Girl]

Damned if we do, damned if we don’t. Mitt isn’t running for President and we all highly doubt McCain will choose him for a running mate. Unless you all are getting a head start for the 2012 presidential campaign. No matter what we do or say, it isn’t right in many of your eyes. Well, that is OK. Ultimately, it is Jesus Christ who will determine who His shepherds were in this life.

[Grig]

1. Mitt didn’t disavow anything. You would have to look far and wide to find a faithful LDS man who has any kind of eagerness to bring polygamy back and Mitt’s remarks are representative of faithful LDS men. Even back in the day men like Brigham Young and others were extremely reluctant and began practicing it only out of faith and duty.

2. I never heard any LDS complain about anything like this either. Last I checked the Bible the Gideons handed out was a KJV New Testament with Psalms and Proverbs as well so what is the big deal?

3. Covenants are not promises or oaths. Nor is there any conflict between the oath of office and his duty to God as a faithful Mormon, in fact his duty to God would include keeping the oath of office.

4. Although the press breaks the quote into two parts and characterizes the last part about God appearing to others as well as ‘hastily added’, the fact remains that he said it. Again, I haven’t heard any Mormons complaining about this, and I’m reluctant to trust how the media portrays it.

5. I don’t see Romney as having done anything to blur any lines. He put emphasis the common values we share and pushed doctrinal differences aside as irrelevant to the political process (and he was right to do so). He was clear that there were differences, and they they were not relevant in deciding between candidates.

Of my fellow Mormons I’ve talked with who did not support Mitt, they were either liberals who though Mitt was too conservative, or they felt some other candidate was closer to the conservative idea.

I can’t recall hearing even on of my fellow LDS cite any of these as their reason for not supporting Romney. It seems to me that Newsweek went out and compiled a list of what anti-Mormons tried to use to turn Mormons against Mitt, found a couple Mormons to comment on the list, and didn’t really look at the reality of the situation.

Interesting though that even after his leaving the race, and even after McCain gets it all sown up, people still can’t get Mitt off their minds.

[xzins]

Others were puzzled to hear Romney say he reads the Gideon Bible—a version popular with evangelicals

We can stop reading right there. Newsweek's Sally Atkinson reveals herself in over her head and the religious lightweight that she is.

There is no such thing as a "Gideon's Version" of the Bible. The Gideon's primarily hand out the King James Version of the bible. I believe they once started using the New King James Version, but I'm unsure if they've continued with that.

However, there is no "Gideon's Version."

As ever, Newsweek is totally ignorant of religious matters and how they matter. (I'm no Mormon, but IIRC, the Mormons use what is essentially the King James Version of the Old and New Testament.)