Knowing Mary Through the Bible: Mary's Last Words

CERC ^ | Dr. Edward Sri

[Salvation]

We have told you again and again:

Mary is the Mother of God, both in human form and in godly form.

She is the Mother of the Son of God and the Son of Man.

Also the Mother of the Son of David as referenced many times for the Jews by Matthew in his Gospel.

I don’t really think you let that Bible sink in too much.

Unless your Bible has changed the original translation from St. Jerome.

[Salvation]

**the flesh Christ put on.**

Very strange words in my opinion.

Mary conceived Christ through the power of the “Holy Spirit”, the third person of the Blessed Trinity.

It is sounding like you don’t believe in the Holy Trinity:
God the Father
God the Son
God the Holy Spirit

All separate entities, yet forming one Trinity in union with one another.

[Quix]

I could understand

KNOWING JESUS THROUGH THE BIBLE

The whole Book is about HIM.

The more accurate title for Mary would be:

KNOWING MARY THROUGH A POST CARD

. . . all written of her in The Bible would fit on a post card.

Magicsterical trump-ups hardly count, in my construction on reality.

Scripture and Holy Spirit count.

KNOWING MARY THROUGH A POST CARD

is a much more honest title.

[AlguyA]

I find it fascinating you cannot simply say, "Yes, Mary is the mother of my Lord." Elizabeth says exactly the same thing, yet, you can't even accept this direct quote as your own so enmeshed are you in the doctrines of men. Far better, apparently, that you maintain your views of the wrong doctrines of the Catholic Church than that you accept the very simple words of the Bible.

Yet, I have no doubt you still credit yourself as being a 'bible-believing' Christian. Fascinating.

[AlguyA]

Quix, just wondering, do you too also have a problem answering the question, "Is Mary the mother of your Lord?"

[Quix]

Certainly Mary was the earthly mother of Christ in His earthly form.

I still avoid calling Mary The MOTHER of God.

That is inappropriate, to me.

There’s an insinuation of Mary being over God in some nebulous sense that I simply cannot tolerate at all.

[AlguyA]

"Mary is the mother of the flesh Christ put on."

Wow, you want to be very careful with statements like this. Jesus was not God in a mansuit. And we are far more than flesh.

[Quix]

In a sense . . . it’s like saying . . .

Mary was the taxi ride Christ took to His humanness.

[AlguyA]

You still avoided the question. Can you, personally, say, “Mary is the mother of my Lord?”

[Quix]

Jesus was not God in a mansuit.

= = =

Oh?

How so?

Seems as apt as any human description can be.

[Pyro7480]

I know of nobody outside the Roman Catholic church that insists that Mary is the mother of God.

That's because you probably don't much about the Orthodox Churches. "Mother of God" as a title says more about Jesus than Mary. It's an affirmation of the divinity of Our Lord Jesus Christ.

[AlguyA]

"Mary was the taxi ride Christ took to His humanness."

So have you, or did you ever, tell your own mother she was simply the 'taxi ride' you took to your own humanness? And, again, I ask, can you, as the Bible does, call Mary the mother of your Lord?

[Quix]

Knowing my mother, she probably said such a thing herself at some point in time. Certainly there were conversations of that flavor and ilk.

I’ve said what I’m comfortable saying about Mary being the mother of Christ in His human form.

Christ was before Mary and all that is was created by Him.

There is nothing, imho, good to be served by the emphasis you are trying to make and a lot evil to be done by it because of what the Maticsterical and the RC edifice have twisted that into.

[AlguyA]

Oh? How so? Seems as apt as any human description can be.

Well, first, he has a human soul. A human intellect. A human will. He was not just God going trick-or-treating as a man for thirty some years. What do you think the bible means when it says 'man was created in God's image?'

[Pyro7480]

Of course, the divinity of Jesus is eternal. But if you say “Mary is the mother of Christ in His human form,” you separate Christ into two persons, when He is ONE person with two natures.

[Quix]

Well, first, he has a human soul. A human intellect. A human will. He was not just God going trick-or-treating as a man for thirty some years. What do you think the bible means when it says ‘man was created in God’s image?’

= = =

imho, THE INCARNATION is filled with mystery.

I don’t think mortal pontificating beyond Scripture about it is likely to be very accurate.

I don’t think we know what it means . . . “made in God’s image.” We can speculate. But that’s about it.

[Quix]

I don’t find that your semantic distinctions mean a lot, to me.

He was perfect God and perfect man.

Therefore?

[narses]

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Canticles 4. 7) Thou art all fair, O Mary, and there is in thee no stain of original sin. Alleluia.

[AlguyA]

I don’t think mortal pontificating beyond Scripture about it is likely to be very accurate.

Actually, most of my posts have simply been trying to get 'bible-believing' Christians to agree with the bible that Mary is the mother of their lord. Since they refuse to even quote Scripture, let alone discuss it, then you are right, there probably is no need to continue.

[Pyro7480]

And He is one person.