Posted on 10/08/2007 7:49:32 AM PDT by colorcountry
Not only is Mormonism a Christian faith, it is the truest form of Christianity, said speaker after speaker on the first day of the 177th Semiannual LDS General Conference. LDS authorities were responding to the allegation that Mormonism isn't part of Christianity. Made by different mainline Protestant and Catholic churches and repeated constantly during coverage of Mitt Romney's presidential campaign, the claim is based on Mormonism's beliefs about God, its rejection of ancient ideas about the Trinity still widely accepted, and the LDS Church's extra-biblical scriptures. "It is not our purpose to demean any person's belief nor the doctrine of any religion," said Apostle Jeffrey R. Holland in the afternoon session. "But if one says we are not Christians because we do not hold a fourth- or fifth-century view of the Godhead, then what of those first [Christians], many of whom were eye-witnesses of the living Christ, who did not hold such a view either?"
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The day's sermons included many familiar themes, including the importance of faith, the need for pure thoughts and actions, avoiding pornography reaching out to neighbors and eliminating spiritual procrastination. Hinckley talked about the destructive nature of anger in marriages, on the road, and in life, urging Mormons to "control your tempers, to put a smile upon your faces, which will erase anger; speak with words of love and peace, appreciation and respect."
Insider stuff. It’s secret not sacred! Born in the Covenant?
C’mon Mormon Dude! Are you trickin’ us?
As you either know or should know, The Holy Bible. If you didn’t know, you should read a little history sometime.
Elsie, it is bad to put abroad things that are not true. Someone might call you a liar.
The word of wisdom is in the Doctrine & Covenants section 89 and I am certain you are aware that the concept of baptism of the dead was covered in the New Testament.
Baptism for the dead is done by those outside of Christianity, since the Apostle Paul made a contrast between what "they" do and what "we" do. Paul said that even those who do baptism for the dead believe in the resurrection. How much more should we, who do not baptize for the dead and are led by apostles who were eyewitnesses of Christ's resurrection, believe in the resurrection (caption: 1 Cor. 15:29-30)
I Corinthians 15:29, "Otherwise, what will those do who are baptized for the dead? If the dead are not raised at all, why then are they baptized for them?"
Just north of Corinth was a city named Eleusis. This was the location of a pagan religion where baptism in the sea was practiced to guarantee a good afterlife. This religion was mention by Homer in Hymn to Demeter 478-79.
The Corinthians were known to be heavily influenced by other customs. After all, they were in a large economic area where a great many different people frequented. It is probable that the Corinthians were being influenced by the religious practices found at Eleusis where baptism for the dead was practiced.
Paul used this example from the pagans in 1 Cor. 15:29, when he said, "...if the dead are not raised, then why are they baptized for the dead?" Paul did not say we.1 This is significant because the Christian church was not practicing baptism for the dead, but the pagans were. Paul's point was simple. The resurrection is a reality. It is going to happen when Jesus returns. Even the pagans believe in the resurrection, otherwise, why would they baptize for the dead? [ color country’s post ]
By the way, did you know that the reorganized church of LDS doesn’t adhere to baptism for the dead, etc., because the BoM doesn’t teach it.
Nor does the RLDS have a command to “practice” polygamy in any of their scriptures.
Horny Joe introduced that information at a later time....when it was more convenient....an hmm, less dangerous. It still got him killed.
Neither add nor subtract from my statement. There are many things that I believe that are contained in the Holy Bible, the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine & Covenants and the Pearl of Great Price, as well as the spoken words of God’s Prophets.
You see, I believe that God loves us so very much that his Plan of Salvation includes speaking to us, not damning us with silence for the last two thousand years.
I really have no concern one way or another as to the conduct of the Community of Christ.
Horny Joe?
That’s a cute one. Sort of like colorless colorcountry?
You are right. I was wrong in my statement.
...and I am certain you are aware that the concept of baptism of the dead was covered in the New Testament.
Covered?
It was mentioned; not 'covered'.
There's a BUNCH that the BoM doesn't teach; and a BUNCH that it does!
Then perhaps you will point out what is so ABOMINABLE in the Nicene Creed.
Watch out! Don’t you realize that you can be freely attacked for noticing that?
Did you also notice the Book of James? You know...
You see, I believe that God loves us so very much that his Plan of Salvation includes speaking to us, not damning us with silence for the last two thousand years.
So ... God does not speak to you personally ?Romans 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:Are you sure that you needed Joseph Smith to speak for God to you ?1 John 2:27 But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him.
Gee, first you guys say God has said all he has to say and it is all in the Holy Bible and now you are using the Holy Bible to refute that. Next thing you know, you will read it for yourself.
For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. [caption:Psa 45:6] Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands: They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment; And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail. But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool? Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation? [KJV]
You see, OMm, God has not remained silent to us since the death of the last Apostle who walked with Jesus and learned of Him from Him. The Gospel IS God speaking to us, yet your false religion denies this fundamental belief at the heart of Christianity! God has not been silent to us, in need of restoring His promises in His Gospel. And I am sure that He didn't need a lying, adulterous, fakir, peepstone false prophet to restore something God has been administering for lo these 2000 years through His Holy Spirit sent by Jesus at the Day of Pentecost.
If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.
7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.
8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.
From his actions and his writings, would you not consider Paul a prophet also?
A pity He suffers with all the avaricious, adulterous and lying preachers, ministers, etc. that cause divisiveness. A pity you know nothing of the truth because you have never followed the instructions to receive wisdom.
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