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LDS defend the faith as Christian
The Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 10/07/07 | By Peggy Fletcher Stack

Posted on 10/08/2007 7:49:32 AM PDT by colorcountry

Not only is Mormonism a Christian faith, it is the truest form of Christianity, said speaker after speaker on the first day of the 177th Semiannual LDS General Conference. LDS authorities were responding to the allegation that Mormonism isn't part of Christianity. Made by different mainline Protestant and Catholic churches and repeated constantly during coverage of Mitt Romney's presidential campaign, the claim is based on Mormonism's beliefs about God, its rejection of ancient ideas about the Trinity still widely accepted, and the LDS Church's extra-biblical scriptures. "It is not our purpose to demean any person's belief nor the doctrine of any religion," said Apostle Jeffrey R. Holland in the afternoon session. "But if one says we are not Christians because we do not hold a fourth- or fifth-century view of the Godhead, then what of those first [Christians], many of whom were eye-witnesses of the living Christ, who did not hold such a view either?"

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The day's sermons included many familiar themes, including the importance of faith, the need for pure thoughts and actions, avoiding pornography reaching out to neighbors and eliminating spiritual procrastination. Hinckley talked about the destructive nature of anger in marriages, on the road, and in life, urging Mormons to "control your tempers, to put a smile upon your faces, which will erase anger; speak with words of love and peace, appreciation and respect."


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To: Elsie

So much for personal attacks.


1,401 posted on 11/02/2007 1:37:55 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (I have a tagline . I just don't think the forum police will allow me to use it. THEY'RE EVERYWHERE!)
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To: colorcountry

Ping her and tell that I called OMM a JERK!

(And something about 2 Kings 18:27 KJV, for he don’t read the NIV)


1,402 posted on 11/02/2007 1:38:49 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

All this talk about jerky and turnips is making me hungry!


1,403 posted on 11/02/2007 1:47:46 PM PDT by colorcountry ("ever met a gang banger with a hunter safety card?" ~ Ted Nugent)
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To: Old Mountain man
 
To: Elsie

I do not care to read the NIV version.

1,383 posted on 11/02/2007 2:45:48 PM CDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
 
 

To: Elsie

Why do you keep saying I don’t? I certainly never said it. Now about your belief?

 

Old Mountain Man:  Do you believe the following verses??   (Don't read the first column - your eyes might fall out.)

 
 
NIV 1 Corinthians 4:17
   For this reason I am sending to you Timothy, my son whom I love, who is faithful in the Lord. He will remind you of my way of life in Christ Jesus, which agrees with what I teach everywhere in every church.
 
 
 

NIV 1 Corinthians 11:2
   I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the teachings,  just as I passed them on to you.
 
 
 
 
NIV 2 Thessalonians 2:15
   So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the teachings  we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter. 
 
 
 

NIV 2 Timothy 1:13
   What you heard from me, keep as the pattern of sound teaching, with faith and love in Christ Jesus.
 
 
 

NIV 2 Timothy 3:14-15
 14.  But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have become convinced of, because you know those from whom you learned it,
 15.  and how from infancy you have known the holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.
KJV 1 Corinthians 4:17
  For this cause have I sent unto you Timotheus, who is my beloved son, and faithful in the Lord, who shall bring you into remembrance of my ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church.
 
 
 

KJV 1 Corinthians 11:2
   Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.
 
 

 KJV 2 Thessalonians 2:15
   Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
 
 
 
 

KJV 2 Timothy 1:13
   Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.
 
 
 
 
KJV 2 Timothy 3:14-15
 14.  But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
 15.  And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
 

1,404 posted on 11/02/2007 1:53:50 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: colorcountry

The first: ok...

The second.... eh; I’d have to be REAL hungry!!


1,405 posted on 11/02/2007 1:55:06 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

OOOoooh no! The dreaded NIV!!!

My eyes, my eyes! LOL


1,406 posted on 11/02/2007 2:02:26 PM PDT by colorcountry ("ever met a gang banger with a hunter safety card?" ~ Ted Nugent)
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To: colorcountry

It isn’t APPROVED! WOW how telling is it when you can have a JS Translation but you can’t read a later translation of the Bible unless it’s church-approved...who knows what EVIL you might be influenced by in the NIV???


1,407 posted on 11/02/2007 2:15:07 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (I have a tagline . I just don't think the forum police will allow me to use it. THEY'RE EVERYWHERE!)
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To: Elsie

So what? You can quote scriptures and won’t answer simple questions?

Satan can quote scriptures; no big deal.


1,408 posted on 11/02/2007 2:29:25 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: restornu

Agreed!


1,409 posted on 11/02/2007 2:30:25 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: colorcountry

The person addressed was me. She did respond in just as adult a manner as anyone of you mainstream “Christians” has done for the past few day.

If you don’t like it, well that’s life. I don’t mind doctrinal discussions but I will NOT any longer engage in personal attacks from the likes of Elsie, you or anyone else. Nor will I put up with them.


1,410 posted on 11/02/2007 2:33:43 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: greyfoxx39

Yes, you guys seem to be experts at personal attacks. Are you democrats?


1,411 posted on 11/02/2007 2:35:34 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: Elsie

Perhaps you are hurt by the truth of my statement?

Just a thought.


1,412 posted on 11/02/2007 2:36:47 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: Old Mountain man; restornu

Did I attack you? Resty posted a response to MY post but it was directed to YOU and NOT me. It was a backhanded approach to a personal attack.

I will and do suffer personal attacks in the name of God from you mormons all the time. I will gladly keep turning the other cheek.

See ya OMM, I’d like to say it’s been real nice...in fact I’d like to say it has been real, ... but it has been neither.


1,413 posted on 11/02/2007 2:37:27 PM PDT by colorcountry ("ever met a gang banger with a hunter safety card?" ~ Ted Nugent)
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To: Elsie

I have answered you. You refuse to answer me, remember? Or are you ignoring the plain things I write in my responses to you so that you can make accusations against me?


1,414 posted on 11/02/2007 2:38:23 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: Elsie

I can tell you who took custody of them, but of course if you open your copy of the Book of Mormon you can find that information. Now, can you answer me? Were are the original manuscripts for the New Testament?


1,415 posted on 11/02/2007 2:40:24 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: Elsie

Interesting conclusion. When did the Lord confer the keys to Prophesy upon you?


1,416 posted on 11/02/2007 2:41:42 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: colorcountry

So, are you saying that the Dead Sea Scrolls are the original manuscripts of the New Testament? That’s the first I’ve heard of that. Gosh, I guess I learn something new every day!

/S off


1,417 posted on 11/02/2007 2:44:14 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: Old Mountain man

OMM, your post #384 said BIBLE ....

To: Elsie
Care to tell me where the original manuscripts for any of the Books of the Bible are stored? Not the copies, mind you, the originals.

Don’t exist? Nothing older than about 300 AD?

Hmmmmmmmm . . .

1,384 posted on 11/02/2007 1:48:22 PM MDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1908158/posts?page=1384#1384


1,418 posted on 11/02/2007 2:50:14 PM PDT by colorcountry ("ever met a gang banger with a hunter safety card?" ~ Ted Nugent)
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To: colorcountry

I do not believe I have ever proffered a personal attack toward you. If I have, I apoligize. It was not my intent to do so.


1,419 posted on 11/02/2007 2:51:13 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: colorcountry; Elsie

That is correct, I said Bible. Scrivner’s error. I meant New Testament.

My apologies for any confusion although I doubt that the Dead Sea scrolls were original manuscripts.


1,420 posted on 11/02/2007 2:54:01 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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