[ folk medicine types - dare I say shaman? witches? ]
Con artists.
Algore's Great-Great-Great-Great Uncle AzGore hoodwinks the sheeple by "Making the Sun Go Dark".
Got Shock and Awe?
Posted on 10/08/2007 7:49:32 AM PDT by colorcountry
Not only is Mormonism a Christian faith, it is the truest form of Christianity, said speaker after speaker on the first day of the 177th Semiannual LDS General Conference. LDS authorities were responding to the allegation that Mormonism isn't part of Christianity. Made by different mainline Protestant and Catholic churches and repeated constantly during coverage of Mitt Romney's presidential campaign, the claim is based on Mormonism's beliefs about God, its rejection of ancient ideas about the Trinity still widely accepted, and the LDS Church's extra-biblical scriptures. "It is not our purpose to demean any person's belief nor the doctrine of any religion," said Apostle Jeffrey R. Holland in the afternoon session. "But if one says we are not Christians because we do not hold a fourth- or fifth-century view of the Godhead, then what of those first [Christians], many of whom were eye-witnesses of the living Christ, who did not hold such a view either?"
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The day's sermons included many familiar themes, including the importance of faith, the need for pure thoughts and actions, avoiding pornography reaching out to neighbors and eliminating spiritual procrastination. Hinckley talked about the destructive nature of anger in marriages, on the road, and in life, urging Mormons to "control your tempers, to put a smile upon your faces, which will erase anger; speak with words of love and peace, appreciation and respect."
Ooh! The cultist’s favorite game: Out-of-Context Snippets!
Can I play too? Let’s see, now....
Genesis 24:2 “Put your hand under my thigh”
Exodus 4:22 “Thus says the LORD”
Luke 10:37 “You go, and do likewise.”
John 13:37 “What you are going to do, do quickly.”
Oh, and I hope everyone notes: you did not even come close to answering my very simple question. Did you forget it already?
Here it is again:
Can I say that there is only one true God, that salvation is by grace ALONE through faith ALONE in Christ ALONE, and that the Bible ALONE is the inerrant word of God, and call myself a Mormon?
These dozens of references are there for everyone to see and look up in their entire context. They are about works, and the necessity of them to be used alongside faith. None is complete without the other. The commandments are before us, and as for me and my house, I will serve the Lord. You are free to do the same as you see fit.
Alone? No, Salvation is not sufficient if sought for by faith alone. See the above list of references, here is just one, once more for your perusal. Do with it what you will, I can only testify to you that Christ is real, and His commandments are real, and not optional.
All the best, I’m out.
James 2: 26 faith without works is dead.
Now your game is Operation Broken Record.
So, once again, whether you AGREE with the statement or not: can I say that there is only one true God, that salvation is by grace ALONE through faith ALONE in Christ ALONE, and that the Bible ALONE is the inerrant word of God, and call myself a Mormon?
It’s a simple question.
Oh, and I don’t know if you meant to be crude or disgusting with your 4 references, but it was indeed. If you wish to spread the light of Christ to others, this is not a good way to go about it, IMHO.
Opinion noted.
So, whether you AGREE with the statement or not: can I say that there is only one true God, that salvation is by grace ALONE through faith ALONE in Christ ALONE, and that the Bible ALONE is the inerrant word of God, and call myself a Mormon?
It’s a simple question.
Mark 12:13
And they send unto him certain of the Pharisees and of the Herodians, to catch him in his words.
Now, I really must run, have a good day!
I don't know what "godlike essence" means.
Scripture says that we are partakers of the divine nature. That's quite true, but we don't become possessors of a divine nature of our own.
Your refusal to answer a simple question is quite eloquent.
It’s endemic.
Christians, insofar as we are true to our faith, are up-front about what the Bible teaches.
Cultists are dishonest.
Period.
It should be a dead giveaway. If a religion won’t (which is not the same as “can’t”) answer simple questions up-front, you don’t need any part of it.
Show me the “rapture” in your scripture.
lol; that’s great.
[• Man has become as God]
Just as the serpent promised?
Or maybe not...
Isa 14:12-15
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
KJV
Very good post, James, with much thought and insight.
You not only take the cake, but you baked it to perfection!
The term in verse 17 "will be caught up together" is the term from which we get the concept of Rapture. It is "caught up," "snatched up," "raptured." And it has to do with the catching away of the church, the taking up of the church. It's by the way a violent word.
Since the Apostle Paul wrote this letter in Greek, it is necessary to translate the Greek words into English. The Greek word used here is "harpazo" - and I have given several meanings of the word above.
If you object to this method of interpretation, remember, the word "baptise," which I am sure you have used before, is not an English word, but a Greek word used by the translators of the King James Bible, to avoid its actual meaning. Baptizo means to dip into something, as when a cloth worker dips a piece of cloth into a vat of dye to change its color. The problem with the translation is that the Anglicans, who were responsible for translating the KJV did not "dip" people when they baptised them, they sprinkled them. So they avoided theological problems by not translating the word. We have translated the Greek word, harpazo, and have used the term "rapture" as it's translation.
There are many words which are used to define theology which are not actually in the Bible, but they have been adopted over the centuries to describe theological truths. I would dare say, there are a number of terms in LDS theology that are not found in the sacred writings of the LDS. One that comes to mind is the word "Church" - not found in the Bible. "Presidency" - not found in the Bible. But they are used for clarity.
By the way, “Jehovah” is not found in the Bible, either. It is a corruption of the Tetragrammaton - the personal name of God, found in Exodus 3:13-15
Good post
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