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LDS defend the faith as Christian
The Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 10/07/07 | By Peggy Fletcher Stack

Posted on 10/08/2007 7:49:32 AM PDT by colorcountry

Not only is Mormonism a Christian faith, it is the truest form of Christianity, said speaker after speaker on the first day of the 177th Semiannual LDS General Conference. LDS authorities were responding to the allegation that Mormonism isn't part of Christianity. Made by different mainline Protestant and Catholic churches and repeated constantly during coverage of Mitt Romney's presidential campaign, the claim is based on Mormonism's beliefs about God, its rejection of ancient ideas about the Trinity still widely accepted, and the LDS Church's extra-biblical scriptures. "It is not our purpose to demean any person's belief nor the doctrine of any religion," said Apostle Jeffrey R. Holland in the afternoon session. "But if one says we are not Christians because we do not hold a fourth- or fifth-century view of the Godhead, then what of those first [Christians], many of whom were eye-witnesses of the living Christ, who did not hold such a view either?"

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The day's sermons included many familiar themes, including the importance of faith, the need for pure thoughts and actions, avoiding pornography reaching out to neighbors and eliminating spiritual procrastination. Hinckley talked about the destructive nature of anger in marriages, on the road, and in life, urging Mormons to "control your tempers, to put a smile upon your faces, which will erase anger; speak with words of love and peace, appreciation and respect."


TOPICS: Current Events; Other Christian
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To: fproy2222
A garbage answer.

After studying the many churches, I come to find the Church of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints to be the church God leads, Through Jesus, then through his prophet.

Ummm...

Just WHERE has your Living Prophet® LED you guys lately??

1,121 posted on 10/31/2007 4:22:06 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: fproy2222
A garbage answer.

All you say is there are many good churches, in your oppion, even though, as in my study, they do not agree with each other.

How do you know that YOUR branch of the Mormon group of churches is correct?

There are MANY of them.

It would seem to me that the folks who control the original property when JS started should be the most correct.

1,122 posted on 10/31/2007 4:23:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: fproy2222
Will you help me find the true church by listing them?

Hmm..

I thought I saw a list on these threads somewhere lately.

Don't ANY of them meet ANY of the things you are looking for?

1,123 posted on 10/31/2007 4:25:37 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Old Mountain man
Well, since we use the same Bible as you... PLUS a lot of off the wall ramblings, Masonic voodoo and mis'translated' Egyptian funeral hieroglyphics!

But don't worry; it's you so called 'Christians' who have that little matter of greek philosophy!

--MormonDude(glad WE got it RIGHT! No steenking filosoffy for us!)

1,124 posted on 10/31/2007 4:29:40 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Old Mountain man
There, discussion is over, you admit we are the Christians.

It appears someone is dreaming and typing in their sleep!

1,125 posted on 10/31/2007 4:30:45 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: fproy2222
I wish that the people on this post were as good and kind.

Oh, me too!

1,126 posted on 10/31/2007 4:31:37 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: fproy2222
You can only bash the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, and now the ColoCity group.

It's not MY fault that posting your own organizations publications gets you all upset.

1,127 posted on 10/31/2007 4:32:39 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: fproy2222
Because you believe you have found the ONLY TRUE CHURCH. In other words, as you’ve written above...you believe all other churches are leaderless.

 

Christ is the HEAD of the church: ALL else is BODY!

There is no neck or spine mentioned:  no 'chain of command'  listed ANYWHERE in the New Testement writings.

 



1 Corinthians 11:2-3
 2.  I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the teachings,  just as I passed them on to you.
 3.  Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.
 
1 Corinthians 12:12
   The body is a unit, though it is made up of many parts; and though all its parts are many, they form one body . So it is with Christ.
 
1 Corinthians 12:20
   As it is, there are many parts, but one body .
 
 
Ephesians 1:9-10
  9.  And he  made known to us the mystery of his will according to his good pleasure, which he purposed in Christ,
 10.  to be put into effect when the times will have reached their fulfillment--to bring all things in heaven and on earth together under one head , even Christ.
 
 
Ephesians 1:22-23
 22.  And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church,
 23.  which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.
 
 
Ephesians 4:15
   Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ.
 
 
Ephesians 5:23
  For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body , of which he is the Savior.
 
 
Ephesians 5:29-30
 29.  After all, no one ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cares for it, just as Christ does the church--
 30.  for we are members of his body.
 
 
Colossians 1:18
   And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.
 
 
Colossians 2:9-10
  9.  For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form,
 10.  and you have been given fullness in Christ, who is the head over every power and authority.
 
 
Colossians 2:18-20
 18.  Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you for the prize. Such a person goes into great detail about what he has seen, and his unspiritual mind puffs him up with idle notions.
 19.  He has lost connection with the Head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow.
 

1,128 posted on 10/31/2007 4:48:30 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: fproy2222
Quit jerking around. LOL!! You know exactly what you are doing. You don't want help. You don't seek the truth. You think you've already found it.

Here...read this again.

You guys can't have it both ways...You want to be called Christians ( included with all Christian Churches..), but you also believe and are taught that the MORMON Church is the ONLY Church that God speaks to....!! You've said it..and MANY of your founders have expressed the exact same thing. And you wonder why you get opposition?

1,129 posted on 10/31/2007 7:57:24 AM PDT by Osage Orange (The old/liberal/socialist media is the most ruthless and destructive enemy of this country.)
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To: Elsie
It’s not MY fault that posting your own organizations publications gets you all upset.

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I am not upset about what my church says and is. Anyone who takes the time to check a little farther will see that you are using sound bites of partial truth in you posts.

What I find upsetting is that you only want me out of my church, you will give no direction as to who I should worship with. You see, I still question my church’s claim to be the one true church, but people like you only make me want to defend where I am and not look for why you might be right.

1,130 posted on 10/31/2007 9:10:00 AM PDT by fproy2222 (If you want to know the truth, study both sides. To the most original source.)
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To: Elsie
There is no neck or spine mentioned: no ‘chain of command’ listed ANYWHERE in the New Testement writings.

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this, right out of your posting, looks like a part of a chain of command. Thank you for finding it.

“and the head of the woman is man”

“For the husband is the head of the wife”

1,131 posted on 10/31/2007 9:19:15 AM PDT by fproy2222 (If you want to know the truth, study both sides. To the most original source.)
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To: Elsie
To: fproy2222
A yes or no answer will do, but I bet you do not have it in you.

No.

Pay up; loser!

Faulty logic will get you every time!


...then you are saying that all other churches are true.


...the real question was,

++++++++++++++++++++++++

Thank you for your answer, FINALLY.

now will you answer the REAL QUESTION, “Will you help us to not join another wrong church?”

1,132 posted on 10/31/2007 9:24:28 AM PDT by fproy2222 (If you want to know the truth, study both sides. To the most original source.)
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To: Elsie
Did you notice that Jesus... has NOT been resurrected yet: an act that will PROVE that He is GOD.
He is still trying to get folks to accept what the Scriptures had said about the Messiah to come.

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let me see if I have what you are saying.

You believe that God, in the form of Jesus, is talking to himself, in the form of God, and this, to you, proves that they are part of one God?

1,133 posted on 10/31/2007 9:29:45 AM PDT by fproy2222 (If you want to know the truth, study both sides. To the most original source.)
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To: Elsie

And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.

According to LDS organization doctrine; just which LEVEL of Heaven is Jesus going to inhabit?

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They are all His.


1,134 posted on 10/31/2007 9:31:27 AM PDT by fproy2222 (If you want to know the truth, study both sides. To the most original source.)
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To: Elsie
After studying the many churches, I come to find the Church of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints to be the church God leads, Through Jesus, then through his prophet.

Ummm...

Just WHERE has your Living Prophet® LED you guys lately??

+++++++++++++++++++++

Well, one small example is the ability to have emergence supplies on hand so plan loads of help can be sent out the day after a disaster, and not have to wait days and weeks to gather it.

1,135 posted on 10/31/2007 9:35:11 AM PDT by fproy2222 (If you want to know the truth, study both sides. To the most original source.)
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To: Elsie
All you say is there are many good churches, in your oppion, even though, as in my study, they do not agree with each other.

++++++++++++++++++++++=

Since you agreed with me in a later post, this is now mute.

1,136 posted on 10/31/2007 9:38:39 AM PDT by fproy2222 (If you want to know the truth, study both sides. To the most original source.)
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To: Osage Orange
You guys can’t have it both ways...You want to be called Christians ( included with all Christian Churches..), but you also believe and are taught that the MORMON Church is the ONLY Church that God speaks to....!! You’ve said it..and MANY of your founders have expressed the exact same thing. And you wonder why you get opposition?

+++++++++++++++++++++++==

And yet, we accept more groups as people who are trying to follow Christ then you do. You are the ones that keep telling us, that if a church does not agree with you, they are not Christians.

1,137 posted on 10/31/2007 9:46:32 AM PDT by fproy2222 (If you want to know the truth, study both sides. To the most original source.)
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To: FastCoyote

Why, thank you FC. I can use all the blessings I can get and I hope you might remember me in your prayers since I am going for a job interview tomorrow morning.

OMM


1,138 posted on 10/31/2007 12:43:05 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: Elsie

Celestial Kingdom, of course. You should have known that. Paul taught the doctrine of the three levels of exaltation in the new testament, don’t forget.


1,139 posted on 10/31/2007 12:50:24 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: Elsie

Your attacks have been extremely amusing.

8-)


1,140 posted on 10/31/2007 12:51:20 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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